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re: If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage

Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:59 am to
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You’re joking, right? A good nurse is worth her or his weight in gold. A good nurse cares for the patient and gets things done. I have more respect for them than doctors who one rarely sees in an hospital, especially what they are churning out today. Nurses are vital.
Yes I’m joking, but your response is way over the top. Doctors are still way more important than nurses. And nurses are no more vital than many other jobs across this country. Hell, without the plant baws all them nurses would just be in the dark with no power.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:59 am to
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You’re joking, right? A good nurse is worth her or his weight in gold. A good nurse cares for the patient and gets things done. I have more respect for them than doctors who one rarely sees in an hospital, especially what they are churning out today. Nurses are vital. At least the nurses of previous days. What is coming out of nursing school today isn’t good, and I’ve seen some lazy, fat do-nothings sitting there playing on their cell phones, and with lazy attitudes. The medical business (we don’t have healthcare these days) has ruined everything.



There’s always the nurses are smarter than DRs poster.

Who do you want passing gas during your operation, a Nurse Anesthetist or an
Anesthesiologist?

When you have a DRs appointment and you end up seeing a Nurse Practitioner or PA instead of an MD, you are fine with that.

If I got a dollar every time I heard the DRs are lazy/dumb/stupid rant from an I’m smarter than them nurse, I’d be richer than Elon Musk. A nurses job is to care for the patient and get things done, so when they do that they are literally meeting their job expectations, nothing more. What does it say about that profession if one happens to meet the job expectation, they become the most valuable asset at work.

Anyone admitted to a hospital was admitted by a physician and that person is seen by that physician or physicians on call daily. Their status is updated daily by notes written and or entered into a system, where they may ask to be consulted by other specialized physicians if needed.

Your statement that doctors are rarely seen at the hospital is bullshite.





I'm not seeing where the person you responded to claimed nurses are smarter than doctors.
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:01 am to
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Nurses are overpaid if anything. My mom has taught nursing for 25 years. Her school is in like 75th percentile board passage rate, so a good bit above average. She shows me exams. Lots of these soon to be nurses are damn near retarded. I could have done that coursework in high school. Nursing is by no means an intellectually vigorous field. Engineers, scientists, physicians, could all piss on nurses.

You are so full of shite. Where does your mom teach, some technical school LVN program? Many of the people who start out in a respected BSN program don’t make it through the second or third year, much less to graduation.
Some of these responses are ridiculous- how many of you are responding from the perspective of an experienced RN who actually knows the inside answers about nursing staffing, availability, compensation and intellectual requirements?
Lots of self appointed experts on the profession on here!
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:03 am to
You ever work in a hospital anywhere in July when the new Residents come out?

Not saying nurses are equally trained as a MD obviously but I am saying nurses save many a new doctor’s asses and keep pts safe from their inexperience.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:05 am to
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But medical care is not one we want screwed up,




9 times out of ten, I walk in my doctors office, tell them whats wrong and they throw cheap pills that dont work at me.

Then they try to keep me coming back. Its turned into a racket.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6538 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:09 am to
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Well what the frick do you want me to say then? The post came from an RN on a subreddit that consists of nurses posting on there



do you realize anyone can post anything to the internet? just bc someone posted in r/nursing doesnt necessarily mean they are an RN. sad i have to explain to this
Posted by WaydownSouth
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:10 am to
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9 times out of ten, I walk in my doctors office, tell them whats wrong and they throw cheap pills that dont work at me. Then they try to keep me coming back. Its turned into a racket.



Like what? Most people go see a Dr for things that are preventable by diet and exercise. Its gotten to the point where they assume most people aren’t going to change those things so you get cheap pills…

A woman asked me for advice on something OTC to help with memory. She brought up Privigen (which doesn’t work). I said you can burn $75 on that and there is a chance it may help, or you can make sure to eat a healthy diet and exercise most days of the week and will likely get a better response. Just got an eye roll and she left.
Posted by T_don
Abbeville
Member since Dec 2019
300 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:11 am to
As a guy in nursing school at the moment I can say that shite is pretty hard juggling constant studying and clinical (for free). Yeah there are lazy nurses yes I’ve seen new residents and lazy docs it happens everywhere but it takes a team to do anything in the hospital. Personally I’m in the field because I’m passionate about it and yeah burnout is real in any field you go into a lot of nurses are just tired of taking care of 7-8 pts in one day there’s a point where that gets unsafe and you can’t practice like you want to
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:11 am to
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do you realize anyone can post anything to the internet? just bc someone posted in r/nursing doesnt necessarily mean they are an RN. sad i have to explain to this
I mean aren’t you also just some random anonymous person on the internet posting bullshite?

Why would anyone take what you have to say seriously?
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:12 am
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:12 am to
If there really was a nursing shortage then nurses would already be getting paid more.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6538 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:13 am to
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If doctors would quit having this superiority complex over nurse practitioners


well doctors go to med school for 4 years and get about 14,000 hours of clinical training before they are allowed to practice. How much do NPs require?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6538 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:15 am to
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I mean aren’t you also just some random anonymous person on the internet posting bullshite?

Why would anyone take what you have to say seriously?


lmfao yes you should definitely believe everything you read on the internet
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:16 am to
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If doctors would quit having this superiority complex over nurse practitioners



well doctors go to med school for 4 years and get about 14,000 hours of clinical training before they are allowed to practice. How much do NPs require?




Absolutely fair comment. There are things I'm perfectly ok with seeing an NP for, just as there are things I want an MD doing.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
862 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:19 am to
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You ever work in a hospital anywhere in July when the new Residents come out? Not saying nurses are equally trained as a MD obviously but I am saying nurses save many a new doctor’s asses and keep pts safe from their inexperience.


Residents are in training and have a attending MD monitoring their interactions.
They are overseeing it all. When the residents round on the patients, who is in the room with them? When residents are on call, who do they phone at 3 am with questions on a course of action? Who goes in at 3 am when situations come up? The attending. Don’t spin this shite that residents are on their own making decisions and nurses make medical/medicinal decisions to save patients from residents.

It’s this adversarial attitude that is helping to frick up medicine. Nurses have a lot of practical experience and are an integral part of patient care, but they are not the saviors of medicine. It’s a collaborative job.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:20 am to
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It’s this adversarial attitude that is helping to frick up medicine.


You realize you're the one with the adversarial attitude, right?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:22 am to
Nurses are medical paralegals.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:22 am to
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Nurses are medical paralegals.


You're certainly entitled to keep looking like a dumbass in this thread.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35554 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:23 am to
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Residents are in training and have a attending MD monitoring their interactions.


Lol
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30366 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:24 am to
Nursing school is hard. And honestly we need more males in the profession, so welcome!

Laziness is everywhere. My biggest ick with nurses are those who spend more time on their phones than actually taking care of their pts. This is especially problematic with younger nurses in their early 20’s.

But I’m an old hag nurse who grew up in the days when we stood up when MD’s rounded and did paper charting.

I learned a whole lot from physicians who chewed my arse in my younger years when I did something stupid. Rather than get butthurt abt it, I considered how I could do better and become a better nurse for my pts.

I’ve made it a point to always remain teachable because there is always something new to learn.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7134 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:24 am to
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ERs have to treat patients regardless if they can’t afford a medical bill. So it’s not like these patients won’t be able to get treatment.


AND THE GREAT NEWS IS, IT COSTS THE PATIENTS NOTHING!

DUMBASS
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