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re: If New York City was hit by a nuke, how soon can recovery efforts take from outsiders?
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:25 am to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:25 am to Byrdybyrd05
Within a few hours, almost all of the larger cities on earth and likely all of the military targets would be smoldering, from land, air, and ocean based launches.
Within a few weeks, a nuclear cloud would have spread totally around the globe, exposing everyone to some damaging level of radiation, either long or short term. Most likely a few weeks later the second wave of strikes from a few nuclear submarines held back as clean up strikes would take out any remaining targets and end life as we know it.
This is what has been known for a long time as "mutually assured destruction".
My hope is to be at ground zero on one of the early strikes. Most remaining people will starve to death or die in the nuclear winter. Survival would be a low probability, with almost 100% likelyhood of significant mutation damage.
The mutually assured destruction game plan for a nuclear war is to make certain no one will survive it. That is why if we ever have one, it will begin with a strike by some 100% crazy military force.
Within a few weeks, a nuclear cloud would have spread totally around the globe, exposing everyone to some damaging level of radiation, either long or short term. Most likely a few weeks later the second wave of strikes from a few nuclear submarines held back as clean up strikes would take out any remaining targets and end life as we know it.
This is what has been known for a long time as "mutually assured destruction".
My hope is to be at ground zero on one of the early strikes. Most remaining people will starve to death or die in the nuclear winter. Survival would be a low probability, with almost 100% likelyhood of significant mutation damage.
The mutually assured destruction game plan for a nuclear war is to make certain no one will survive it. That is why if we ever have one, it will begin with a strike by some 100% crazy military force.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 10:29 am
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:28 am to Byrdybyrd05
There’s no recovery from a nuke hit in the modern world. If NYC was first, Moscow/Beijing would be likely simultaneously next, followed by Los Angeles, then London/Berlin/Paris, etc.
That’s all folks.
That’s why all this ratcheting up bullshite needs to stop like yesterday.
That’s all folks.
That’s why all this ratcheting up bullshite needs to stop like yesterday.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:30 am to Byrdybyrd05
The recovery would start that same night and into the following morning. I’m getting older but still bounce back from the occasional night of celebratory drinking pretty quickly.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:33 am to Byrdybyrd05
Maybe Stephen Colbert would be In NYC at the time of it.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:34 am to Byrdybyrd05
Not really much to recover. If you didn’t walk out from outskirts you likely won’t make it
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:37 am to Giantkiller
Exactly there would be no recovery. The world would be playing out the scenario in this old classic
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:39 am to Giantkiller
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There’s no recovery from a nuke hit in the modern world. If NYC was first, Moscow/Beijing would be likely simultaneously next, followed by Los Angeles, then London/Berlin/Paris, etc.
That’s all folks.
That’s why all this ratcheting up bullshite needs to stop like yesterday.
Why do you hate Ukraine? bigot!
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:40 am to SuperSaint
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350K years, give or take
Took until post #14, but there it is .
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:42 am to MeridianDog
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Within a few hours, almost all of the larger cities on earth ......
The questions is, if one city New York was hit by a nuke, how long soon could recovery efforts take place. It was not "if a nuke on New York how long would it take for destruction of the world".
The Japanese proved you can clean up after limited nuclear strikes.
The YouTube astrophysicists Brian Cox and Neil deGrasse Tyson have described how unbelievably rare it is that life as complicated as humans took to develop on this planet. It took over 4.5 billion years. By that time stars and solars systems across the universe had been born and died. So for us to destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons is pretty stupid.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:42 am to StringedInstruments
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It took 3 days to get to the dead and wounded after Hiroshima. 2 years for clean up and a further 4 years for rebuilding.
Depends on the strength of the nuke.
The atomic/fission bombs dropped on Japan were mere firecrackers by nuclear standards at ~20 kilotons. A fusion/hydrogen bomb like Castle Bravo or the Tsar Bomb (15-50 megatons) would be much more devastating.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:46 am to Byrdybyrd05
Would there be any point in rebuilding?
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:49 am to MeridianDog
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Most likely a few weeks later the second wave of strikes from a few nuclear submarines held back as clean up strikes would take out any remaining targets and end life as we know it.
This part intrigues me.. I dont know that anyone can predict what ‘a few weeks’ after a global nuclear event will look like.. Who will be manning those nuclear submarines ? If soldiers have been lying in wait on those subs and keeping up with what’s going on in the outside world, and realize their entire families are dead, and human life is essentially over- who’s to say they’ll just be sitting around underwater eating canned goods and pb&j sandwiches, waiting to finish the job in a few weeks ? Wouldnt they more likely just hang themselves ?
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:51 am to JudgeHolden
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That’s a Radiation Certified Coonass.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:52 am to Privateer 2007
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Would there be any point in rebuilding?
Starting it all over would be pretty fascinating to me.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:53 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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for us to destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons is pretty stupid.
Have you met the average person on the street ?? Complete imbeciles .
Add to that the power, corruption and money of the folks in charge of nuclear policy across the globe- and to me it’ll be more shocking if we DONT destroy ourselves .
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:56 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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The questions is, if one city New York was hit by a nuke, how long soon could recovery efforts take place. It was not "if a nuke on New York how long would it take for destruction of the world".
You’re missing the aspect that with current military response times there would be no waiting like after Japan. Nobody else had access to nuclear weapons last time. It all would be pretty much automated response at this point thus making NYC no longer the sole city in need of recovery. In fact there would be no ways to coordinate any kind of response effort at all. Not just here, but globally. So the scenario in the first post makes no sense. It wouldn’t be a sole city in need of help.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:07 am to Cymry Teigr
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You’re missing the aspect that with current military response times there would be no waiting like after Japan. Nobody else had access to nuclear weapons last time. It all would be pretty much automated response at this point thus making NYC no longer the sole city in need of recovery. In fact there would be no ways to coordinate any kind of response effort at all. Not just here, but globally. So the scenario in the first post makes no sense. It wouldn’t be a sole city in need of help.
I know all this. But that was the question posed.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:10 am to Napoleon
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In terms of outsiders providing assistance, the immediate aftermath of a nuclear attack would likely involve a massive humanitarian response from the international community.
Don't count on it. The aid for America from other countries would be minimal.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:13 am to Byrdybyrd05
NYC would be back maybe after 2-3 decades, and probably as just a mid-sized city at best, nowhere near the splendour it once possessed.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:23 am to Byrdybyrd05
Find the book "War Day" published around 1984. It's a good read.
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