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re: If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:06 am to Centinel
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:06 am to Centinel
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Again, so fricking what? The virus doesn't do dick to 99% of the people out there, aside from some sniffles.
Good luck with that thinking. My friends will tell you it's not worth the risk. They thought like you previously. They regret it now.
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Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:07 am to LSU316
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Look at the number of mask being worn statewide in LA....it's a pretty high percentage overall....yet we are still contracting COVID at an incredibly high rate....It seems pretty simple to me that masks simply don't make much of a difference one way or the other.
One could argue that masks are actually causing cases.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:08 am to S1C EM
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Good luck with that thinking.
I've already had it. I prefer to not live my life in fear. We take risks every time we leave our houses, every single day.
It's called life.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:08 am to Landmass
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Considering that it has been proven that there is no such thing as asymptomatic spread
You wanna link that?
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:09 am to LSU316
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How the frick can you say that family gatherings have the most risk of spread then????
This is where you lose me on the common sense argument you keep screaming about. There is data the Covid spreads indoors between people in close proximity for over 15 minutes. Common sense says family gatherings are indoors, people are in close proximity, longer than 15 minutes, and not usually not wearing any facial covering. Common sense would also say that numbers have gone up when following November and December when people normally have indoor family gatherings.
Wal Mart and Lowes have been crowded since day one and that hasn't changed common sense would say those places are not driving this spike. It is possible to acknowledge it spreads at family gatherings without demonizing/attacking people who have had gatherings.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:12 am to S1C EM
There was a study done including 10 million people. There was another study done by U of Florida. There was a third study that I honestly cannot remember who ran but all three showed no spread from asymptomatic and it follows logic. It also follows the early studies that showed the same thing from the CDC. Even Fauci himself stated early on that asymptomatic people are not drivers of spread. Currently ZERO studies that I am aware of show contrary evidence.
Laugh all you want but it's just science. The fact that you are unaware of these studies shows how far behind the 8-ball you are.
Laugh all you want but it's just science. The fact that you are unaware of these studies shows how far behind the 8-ball you are.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 11:17 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:15 am to Centinel
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I've already had it. I prefer to not live my life in fear. We take risks every time we leave our houses, every single day.
That's great. Tell it to my former mechanic laying unconscious on a vent right now for day 14 (he's 57, btw). I'm glad you enjoy Russian roulette. Don't wear your seatbelt, don't wear shoes, don't wear sunglasses, rip the airbags out of your car, cross the street whenever you feel like it. You mitigate risks every time you leave your house, too. Is there risk? Sure. Is there less risk because of the untold number of safety measures being taken all around you? Yep.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:17 am to Landmass
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Laugh all you want but it's just science.
Asked you for a link. I'm happy to read and change my mind based on the evidence available.
Funny how that seems to only work one way.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:18 am to S1C EM
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Asked you for a link. I'm happy to read and change my mind based on the evidence available.
I'll see if I can find them. These things tend to get scrubbed by the narrative pushers.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:20 am to S1C EM
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That's great. Tell it to my former mechanic laying unconscious on a vent right now for day 14 (he's 57, btw).
My dad died of heart failure during routine surgery at age 59.
Did you have a point?
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:26 am to S1C EM
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:27 am to Centinel
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My dad died of heart failure during routine surgery at age 59.
Did you have a point?
Sure. One person is on a vent because of choices. The other was more than likely related to either genetics or diet (also choices). I mean, let's all stop cooking our food, too.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:28 am to Dizz
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A majority of people are contracting COVID from gatherings where they don't have their mask on.
Care to share a link or science proving that theory?
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:31 am to S1C EM
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:33 am to S1C EM
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I mean, let's all stop cooking our food, too.
That's essentially what you're arguing.
You want to "mitigate risk" for something that while it poses some risk, has almost no impact. What your mitigations are actually doing is destroying people's lives, both career wise and mentally.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:38 am to Centinel
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That's essentially what you're arguing.
Not at all. I'm pointing out the absurdity of complaining about one, single risk mitigation measure.
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You want to "mitigate risk" for something that poses very little risk.
This is entirely relative. YOUR experience is not everyone else's.
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What your mitigations are actually doing is destroying people's lives, both career wise and mentally.
How so? Did I say lock down? Did I say close up shop? I did not.
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You're going all in on the likelihood, and ignoring the impact on a risk matrix.
Again, simple mitigation measures are not intrusive. No more so than putting on pants. You're acting like people are locking you in your house and bulldozing the roads in and out of your subdivision.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:42 am to RedShirt
If people who don't care for masks and only wear them because stores/place of work requires it wear fashion-type masks. I don't care.
What pisses me off is the "Karens" who wear such masks. You can't be bitching about people not wearing masks and then have a piece of cloth over your face
What pisses me off is the "Karens" who wear such masks. You can't be bitching about people not wearing masks and then have a piece of cloth over your face
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:51 am to heatom2
Like every other virus, you normally contract it from a close family member/friend/acquaintance
Everytime I have gotten a virus worth remembering:stomach virus, flu, strep, etc I can trace it to my kids, wife, parents
It’s never been “dang, wonder where I got the flu. Maybe it was from the couple two tables over at dinner 3 nights ago”
That’s why the restrictions are completely pointless. It’s simply “doing something to do something”
Everytime I have gotten a virus worth remembering:stomach virus, flu, strep, etc I can trace it to my kids, wife, parents
It’s never been “dang, wonder where I got the flu. Maybe it was from the couple two tables over at dinner 3 nights ago”
That’s why the restrictions are completely pointless. It’s simply “doing something to do something”
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 11:52 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 11:54 am to RedShirt
Better questions - Flu is basically non-existent this year and the "experts" say it is because of mask wearing and social distancing.
If that is the case, than why isn't it working on covid? The "experts' reply is because people are not wearing their masks and social distancing.
Figure that logic out.
If that is the case, than why isn't it working on covid? The "experts' reply is because people are not wearing their masks and social distancing.
Figure that logic out.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 1:04 pm to winkchance
If you go back to covid in Asia and it’s first arrival in Europe, before the epidemiology was so radically amplified/skewed/influenced Merkel was told, the Swiss, etc knew that it would go through 70% of the population and there wasn’t a damn thing anyone was going to do about it.
This is like having a few dozen sandbags on a beach with an incoming tide. It is what it is. All the angst and .gov theatre isn’t changing anything. If anything more people are depressed, in debt, and wealth inequality is about to go through the roof.
This is like having a few dozen sandbags on a beach with an incoming tide. It is what it is. All the angst and .gov theatre isn’t changing anything. If anything more people are depressed, in debt, and wealth inequality is about to go through the roof.
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