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If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...Posted by RedShirt 
on 1/14/21 at 9:31 am
on 1/14/21 at 9:31 am
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25Then why aren’t there mask standards? If it was really a matter of life and death, would there not be minimum standards required for masks?
Look at the number of mask being worn statewide in LA....it's a pretty high percentage overall....yet we are still contracting COVID at an incredibly high rate....It seems pretty simple to me that masks simply don't make much of a difference one way or the other.
re: If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...Posted by BobLeeDagger 
on 1/14/21 at 9:36 am to LSU316
on 1/14/21 at 9:36 am to LSU316People don't understand that mask wearing coincidentally leads to more face touching thus more contractions. Social distance should have always been the most important public service announcement. All people could have gotten on board the social distance train. You'd have little to no push back with an open, yet socially distanced economy. The evidence is tangible. It's harder to contract a virus the farther away you are from a carrier. Yet we still don't know all the science around effectiveness of masks. There are way too many variables. The biggest mistake made during this whole pandemic was this notion that a mask absolves you from all other precautions. It's ludicrous.
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Unconfirmable speculation
Perhaps, but anecdotally, I live in a big neighborhood with a lot of younger families and people are gathering every weekend and not a mask to be seen.
re: If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...Posted by CubsFanBudMan 
on 1/14/21 at 9:42 am to Dizz
on 1/14/21 at 9:42 am to Dizzquote:
A majority of people are contracting COVID from gatherings where they don't have their mask on.
So where did the person that brought COVID to the party get it from?
Someone came to my office sick later testing positive for COVID. That person wore a mask as required while in the office, and still spread it to someone else who also followed mask protocol.
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Look at the number of mask being worn statewide in LA....it's a pretty high percentage overall....yet we are still contracting COVID at an incredibly high rate....It seems pretty simple to me that masks simply don't make much of a difference one way or the other.
Fwiw-I traveled to Louisiana, throughout Texas and even Mexico during the Christmas holidays. Louisiana was by far the worse public perception of Covid-19/social distancing/masks up-hoes down out of the bunch. That might have something to do with the spike in infection
re: If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...Posted by SloaneRanger on 1/14/21 at 9:48 am to RedShirt
on 1/14/21 at 9:48 am to RedShirtI kid you not, there was an article in the NYT just the other day saying that people should start wearing 2 masks, one on top of the other. You can't make this stuff up. It was the clearest admission we'll ever get out of the NYT that the whole mask strategy has been a complete failure.
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Louisiana was by far the worse public perception of Covid-19/social distancing/masks up-hoes down out of the bunch. That might have something to do with the spike in infection
Except cases are also spiking in locations with strict mask mandates and almost universal mask wearing.
See: Most of Europe, Japan, etc.
re: If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...Posted by Eugene Dogwood 
on 1/14/21 at 9:51 am to RedShirt
on 1/14/21 at 9:51 am to RedShirthot take
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A majority of people are contracting COVID from gatherings where they don't have their mask on.
Bull shite....you'll never be able to show me any empirical data that shows that you are more likely to get COVID from a family gathering that from going to a non-family gathering at WalMart.
re: If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...Posted by The Spleen 
on 1/14/21 at 9:52 am to CubsFanBudMan
on 1/14/21 at 9:52 am to CubsFanBudManquote:
So where did the person that brought COVID to the party get it from?
Someone came to my office sick later testing positive for COVID. That person wore a mask as required while in the office, and still spread it to someone else who also followed mask protocol.
Masks alone have never been argued to be 100% effective, and it's been explained ad nauseum that even with masks, limited social activity, and social distancing there was still risk of spread. Those measures simply reduce the risk of spread. This virus is highly contagious. The mask you wear isn't going to protect you from getting it, especially when there are still so many people not wearing one, or wearing one incorrectly. You can put 10 people in a room, have 9 of them wear a mask and one without a mask, and if the one without a mask has the virus, there's a high probability that person is going to spread it to at least one of the mask wearers.
It's mind boggling we're almost a year into this and people still don't understand the situation. Granted, the communication has been sloppy at times, but the communicable disease doctors have been fairly consistent from the start.
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Look at the number of mask being worn statewide in LA....it's a pretty high percentage overall....yet we are still contracting COVID at an incredibly high rate....It seems pretty simple to me that masks simply don't make much of a difference one way or the other.
Okay, now do how many people have TERRIBLE hygiene habits when it comes to removing and storing their mask. I cannot tell you the number of people that immediately reach up and yank it off as soon as they hit the doorstep of a store using....you guessed it....the same damn hand that they've been grabbing everything in the store with. They proceed to wad it all up and shove it in a pocket, or in their waistband, or wherever and then you wonder why they don't work. And let's not get into who actually changes their mask out or washes their reusable one. People are nasty.
Unless you're wearing an n95 mask the effects are minimal.
The reason the flu numbers are down is due to people's overall increase in proper sanitation.
The masks are purely there to make people feel like they're doing something
The reason the flu numbers are down is due to people's overall increase in proper sanitation.
The masks are purely there to make people feel like they're doing something
re: If masks are the difference in possibly contracting COVID and possibly infecting others...Posted by SloaneRanger on 1/14/21 at 9:54 am to CubsFanBudMan
on 1/14/21 at 9:54 am to CubsFanBudManquote:
So where did the person that brought COVID to the party get it from?
Someone came to my office sick later testing positive for COVID. That person wore a mask as required while in the office, and still spread it to someone else who also followed mask protocol.
Yep, they just don't work. At least the crappy ones everyone is using. There are lots of pre-2020 studies on whether mask use would slow the spread of influenza. In most of those studies the answer was no. Why is anyone surprised that mask wearing is not moving the needle on Covid?
It's all manipulation. They push an ineffective preventative measure after buying stock in companies that manufacture masks. The masks don't work, infections rise so we have to stay shut down and dependent on the federal government to keep us afloat.
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