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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:06 pm to
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I’m sorry y’all’s dad’s didn’t like you, but could you please get the frick over this? Unless you are suggesting the dad is in on the coverup, it does not matter.


Lol, I agree with you though. I don't see this as a big deal at all. If the dad didn't have much going on and wanted to do the road trip with his son and maybe make a couple fun stops along the way it seems perfectly normal.

My parents used to help my sisters drive places all the time. Not everytime for sure, but occasionally. A lot of time it was just because they wanted to be with them and spend some time and it helped make it easier.

Given he's a 28 year old male, but who knows. We also don't know the plane tickets? As mentioned airfare is expensive, maybe he picked his dad up on the way? Or do we know he flew into Boise?
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:08 pm to
Assuming his road trip was pre-planned, he must not have planned to bring that car back to Washington State after the holidays...or he needed a car for the 30 days he would be in PA...the latter isn't far fetched.

I think this stop was just a routine stop...I don't think IN cops were part of the investigation.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:12 pm to
It was reported that they tracked him driving cross country using Ez pass. Indiana looks like one of the first states that uses that pass coming from the west. Once they got a positive ID that it was their guy they
could track the car using the pass. Otherwise they couldn’t be sure he was in the vehicle they were tracking.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:13 pm to
I thought I read that they were only tracking him for the four days leading up to his arrest...
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:14 pm to
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I think this stop was just a routine stop...I don't think IN cops were part of the investigation.


I don't know much about the stops, but there's no way someone like the FBI was involved with a single officer stop. From a likelihood of an officer injury goes those stops would be in like the top 10%.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:18 pm to
Authorities surveilled the trip using Easy Pass to track him. They also used law enforcement fixed wing aircraft and ground support to track his location handing off. He was stopped a couple of times during the trip once for speeding and another issue unclear

— this was earlier in the thread
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:19 pm to
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I thought I read that they were only tracking him for the four days leading up to his arrest...




They surveilled him for 4 days before making arrest. They were probably tracking his location for a couple weeks at least
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:20 pm to
The one on the side of his wrist would be covered by long sleeves. The knuckle just looked like a brush burn. Was hard to tell if just grainy from photo. Both could have been just grainy from photo (not actual healed skin that’s still somewhat red)

I wouldn’t think much of a sore on someone’s knuckle. But if indeed there was one and it was really noticeable, a student would have mentioned by now like the car saleswoman mentioned Brandon Scott Laverne’s injuries after he was arrested. She said his hand was wrapped/bandaged when he purchased a truck just like the one he burned in Conroe, TX
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:22 pm to
I think they were onto him from the time they said they knew the victims were targeted.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Except the dad did fly and then they both drove. So, here you have costs of the flight from PA to WA anyway. Which is kind of my point. If you gotta buy a plane ticket, why buy one for Dad to go from PA to WA, then they both drive 2500 for 4 days to PA, only for son to have to turn around and drive 4 days from PA back to WA to be back in school beginning of January. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense unless the point is to get the car away from the crime scene.

I know folks say they’ve done it or seen it in situations that warrant it (going home for the summer or transporting a pet, etc.). There’s not a pet here and this isn’t summer, so that’s isnt really relevant here.


I completely understand your point, and I am not disagreeing with you. There is probably an underlying motive there. However, I also don't think the cross-country drive between father and son is too odd. I see it both ways.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:35 pm to
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However, I also don't think the cross-country drive between father and son is too odd. I see it both ways.


My wife and I disagree on this.
I don't think his dad flying out there to drive back with him is a big deal, but the wife insists that's highly suspicious and proves his dad was in on it in helping him get away with it.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Brian: we’re uh going to get some Thai food


Just replace Jack with Brian.

Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:51 pm to
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I don't think his dad flying out there to drive back with him is a big deal,


It isn't. While not cross-county, I've driven/ridden approximately 13 hours with my oldest when he was off in college. College breaks are nearly a month long. It isn't unusual for one to want his or her car during the Christmas break.

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but the wife insists that's highly suspicious and proves his dad was in on it in helping him get away with it.


Also, given the circumstances, I understand this argument as well. However, I do not think that dad is "in on it" and "helping him get away with it." The video furthers that, imo.
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:56 pm to
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I don't know much about the stops, but there's no way someone like the FBI was involved with a single officer stop.


Watch the video. The trooper asked a ton of questions for a "following too closely" stop. Especially getting him to speak louder. It was obvious the officer wanted him to talk a lot
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:57 pm to
His father did let him become vegan, so I don't trust this motherfricker at all
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5138 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:01 pm to
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His father did let him become vegan, so I don't trust this motherfricker at all



This is pretty interesting. Check out the 10:43:20+ mark, particularly the 10:43:28 mark of the video. LINK

The father expounds on the "we're getting some Thai food" remark made by saying we're going to Pennsylvania and the Pocono Mountains - effectively giving up Kohberger's location. At the 10:43:28 mark, Bryan closes and his eyes and briefly gives off this "you've gotta be fricking kidding me" facial expression.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:14 pm to
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The closest major airport to Moscow is, I believe, Boise.


According to my Waze app, the Boise airport is approximately a 6hr drive from Moscow. Using that as a point of reference I can see how it would make sense for his dad to fly in and then ride back together. He can’t simply leave his car at home over winter break because it’s too far to Uber to the airport. Likewise, leaving his car at the airport would rack up enormous fees if it sits there over the course of winter break. The smartest thing to do is for dad to purchase a round trip ticket with an extended return date. Dad meets son at the airport, they drive back. Dad and son then drive back to the airport at a later date where dad catches the return flight home and son makes the final 6 hour journey back to school. It’s not nefarious or some high level plot to get the car out of the state, it’s just basic economics and logistics.
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:17 pm to
People get murdered every day

Why are people making a big deal about this story?
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:22 pm to
About his PhD program. I don't know squat about Criminology PhD requirements, I do know a lot about 'real' science PhDs and I never knew anyone who could just take an entire month off, once the program started. Just being able to do library searches, reading other text books, trying to find a topid for a dissertation used to occupy PhD candidate's spare time. It's not like a B.A. program but more expensive, it's about going beyond to acquire knowledge.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1287 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:24 pm to
if anyone is interested in the status of his extradition to Idaho, the flight info is below:

LINK

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