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Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:28 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:28 am to
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I could very well be wrong, but I have seen 0 conclusive evidence so far he had any previous dealings with anyone in this house.


He connected with them on social media. The girls at least. He knew who they were, this isn't random.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24175 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:29 am to
There’s too many things that were poorly planned to make the assumption this was planned. You can’t argue he planned part of this but left out major details.

I wouldn’t doubt the police find he turned off his phone routinely at night. Then drove around.

Again, he didn’t know who was home. He was in Pullman most of the night.

There’s more evidence that he was driving around looking for a random victim, then there is he knew these girls.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24175 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:35 am to
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He connected with them on social media. The girls at least. He knew who they were, this isn't random.


Do we know this for a fact?

Is it possible he connected to them after they were murdered? Once the names were released? There was 6 weeks or more between the murders and the arrest so he could have connected during that time? Or did they have to accept his connection?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:35 am to
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I wouldn’t doubt the police find he turned off his phone routinely at night. Then drove around.


He didn't turn it off the 12 other times you think he was "just in the area" in the middle of the night.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27462 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:37 am to
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There’s more evidence that he was driving around looking for a random victim, then there is he knew these girls.
baldona, take a deep breath...the house was deep inside a neighborhood...he dressed in all black...he turned off his phone when he drove toward moscow and after he left moscow, etc.

Quit being obtuse...
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:49 am to
I'm convinced he's just trolling at this point. No one is that willfully obtuse and obfuscating without trying. No one is that ignorant.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36972 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:53 am to
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Chicken


Thank you.

Guaranteed he still hasn't read the affidavit yet keeps talking out of his arse.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 8:54 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:55 am to
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There was 6 weeks or more between the murders and the arrest so he could have connected during that time? Or did they have to accept his connection?


I take it back, you and Ralph_Wiggum are both Moon Moon


Shut up Moon Moon
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24175 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:55 am to
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I'm convinced he's just trolling at this point. No one is that willfully obtuse and obfuscating without trying. No one is that ignorant.


How am I trolling? Sorry not sorry for offering very valid ulterior options.

If I had planned a murder and I’m waiting on the right time, I go and park within sight. Scope it out. Especially knowing where cameras maybe. Keep out of sight until the time is right, when everyone is asleep.

This guy was driving around. What benefit does that give him above parking?

You guys are locked into a certain theory of the crime with very poor details and many other details left out.

It’s not absurd at all that the only reason he chose this house is they got a door dash when he was in the area.

Your theory is he had this all planned out, was in the area, and then a door dash was delivered. So he decided that was a good time when someone was awake to attack? That makes 0 sense also.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22966 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:55 am to
One thing I still can't really understand is the lack of blood elsewhere in the house. After killing four people with a knife, he likely would have had blood on his clothing, hands, and shoes and tracked it throughout the house.

Even if Dylan didn't fully appreciate what had happened when she saw him leave right after the killings, it seems like it would have been fairly obvious as soon as she woke up the next morning. There likely would have been a noticeable amount of blood right outside her door and in the kitchen where he exited. The affidavit only mentions latent foot prints.

ETA: And we know he wasn't in there long enough to do any sort of clean up.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:00 am
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4571 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:55 am to
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What is this Facebook stuff i keep hearing people taking about? I’m lost?


Go to facebook and just search Pappa Rodger. The account has since been disabled but the individual has a cartoonish profile picture that resembles Bryan. Additionally, he was making posts in the Idaho Murder group that were very cryptic, alarming, etc. If all true, it appears he was toying with people in the group. Things such as On November 30th he posted in the group: "Of the evidence released, the murder weapon has been consistent as a large fixed blade knife. This leads me to believe they found the sheath. This evidence was released prior to autopsies."

Maybe a random guess, but extremely odd. He then gets into an argument with a fellow group member on that posts adamant it had to be the sheath and nothing else could explain that. It's fricking creepy and odd. The account has been disabled and there were no posts after his arrest from what I can tell. There are multiple examples like the above that people screenshotted and have reposted. It's hard to tell what's real and what's b/s, but seems it was him and he was active in that group.

Other example: he makes a posts "How long was the killer in the house?"

Someone responds and asks how long does he think. He responds "15 minutes"

Could all be coincidental or made up I guess, but disgusting if true.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 8:57 am
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5791 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:58 am to
Read the affidavit, dude.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36972 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:59 am to
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If I had planned a murder


You'd be in custody quicker than this idiot based off your posting.

How about stfu and let the adults talk???
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5245 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:01 am to
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How am I trolling? Sorry not sorry for offering very valid ulterior options


The downvotes on your posts just in this thread over the last 2 days have to be over 100. Just by either shitty takes or trolling.



Went back and looked, in the 3 o'clock hour alone yesterday you racked up 108.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:07 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:01 am to
quote:

He connected with them on social media. The girls at least. He knew who they were, this isn't random.


Do we know this for a fact?


Absolutely. 100%. This was no random killing.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96761 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:04 am to
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Quit being obtuse...


No shite. He's being a contrarian just to be a contrarian.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:05 am to
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It’s not absurd at all that the only reason he chose this house is they got a door dash when he was in the area.



It's absurd

Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16136 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:06 am to
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baldona


Holy shite you're dense.

You're trying to make the case that this simply could've been a random choosing of a house based on a doordash delivery, when he was staking out the house late at night a dozen times over the previous 3 months.

He has no other legitimate reason to be in that neighborhood late at night, parked, for hours at a time over the course of 3 months. This is a neighborhood on a dead end road, near a college campus he did not attend. And from all accounts by everyone that knew him, he was a social outcast and strange guy that often rubbed people the wrong way; not someone that would be at any parties or gatherings once, let alone 12 times coincidentally in the same neighborhood.

Use your brain.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27462 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:06 am to
baldona, no more posting in here until after you have read the affidavit.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38016 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:07 am to
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The affidavit only mentions latent foot prints.


But that doesn't mean there wasn't blood everywhere. It just doesn't say so. The affidavit isn't a description of the crime scene, just a tool to get an arrest warrant, right? So we still don't know what the scene actually looked like.
And there's no mention of what the survivor described, right? So maybe she saw a all kinds of gore. But we dont know those details yet? Or do we? I can see here laying in bed all morning if she was high as shite the night before and not coming out of her room to notice hte carnage. Not right away, anyhow.
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