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re: “I visited a car-free neighborhood in AZ and was surprised that it felt 15 degrees cooler”
Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:38 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:38 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
This looks like a 3rd world country. Shitty architecture. Dirt roads. I would still challenger her "15° cooler" claim. I'm sure it was in some spots but it's not like that neighborhood changed the climate around it in any way. It just created some cooler spots on the ground. 
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:45 pm to MightyYat
Shade in the desert is dramatically cooler feeling because there is no humidity.
I've played a bunch of Arizona golf and I swear it's a different climate under the huts
I've played a bunch of Arizona golf and I swear it's a different climate under the huts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:15 pm to CatfishJohn
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I can't read it because of paywall, but the title could be misleading. She mentions initiatives in the plural form. There are other things you can do in city planning to make it feel cooler using wind, shade, different materials, different colors on exteriors, different roofs, underground structures, water, etc.
Probably some well camouflaged misting systems
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:23 pm to tigeroarz1
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If you google it, it’s basically a big cluster of 4-5 level buildings close together. The buildings cause a bunch of shade.
you might even say it's a Culdesac
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:23 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
"car-free neighborhood"
it's just an apartment complex
edited to add: cosmo and other posters beat me to it
it's just an apartment complex
edited to add: cosmo and other posters beat me to it
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:30 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
It's like people are shocked that it's hot AF in the AZ summer. And OMG there's a water shortage too!!!!
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:44 pm to MightyYat
quote:That was the point, friend.
It just created some cooler spots on the ground.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:55 pm to LegendInMyMind
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So, nothing quantifiable?
Placebo effect, at best.
Lying, most likely.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:59 pm to Worldly Bum
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personally like the idea or these walkable cities. I think it'd be great ro be able to walk to the market, drug store, pubs and restaurants and other basic services like medical care. But I hate the idea of them being pushed as some sort of utopia that everyone needs to get on board with. If someone wants to live in the middle of nowhere and coal roll their jacked up F-250s up and down the highways all day long I don't give a shite
Walkability sounds nice but is a pain in the arse ultimately. It means everything has to be jam packed in because our ability on how far we can walk hasn’t really changed. Additionally, a PITA if you need to get groceries or anything bigger than you can carry with your hands.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 4:12 pm to jlovel7
In this case it's literally an apartment complex taking up a 1/3 of a block in downtown Tempe with the buildings crammed together to create shaded walkways with a grocery store and coffee shop and restaurant in front of the neighborhood. They just were smart with the layout of the buildings to maximize shade. It's not a bad concept at all given the area and climate. The story is just a marketing ploy to sell the additional units for the new areas they are building (looks like they are developing the entire block. It reminds me a lot of a college campus. They have parking around the complex and a parking garage. It's not near as innovative nor as progressive as either side of the rahrah coin think based off the article title.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 4:34 pm to Dawgfanman
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“I walked in the shade and it felt cooler”…
Once I swam in the river and got wet
Posted on 6/6/24 at 5:14 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
I've seen other looking women on the Quad.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 5:19 pm to BurningHeart
That's great.
Good for them.
In North Scottsdale, we buy cars and drink cocktails, often at the same time. If your car is over 3 years old, we ask you to move
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We celebrate cars, and we have a giant party for them on the last week in January.
Good for them.
In North Scottsdale, we buy cars and drink cocktails, often at the same time. If your car is over 3 years old, we ask you to move
.
We celebrate cars, and we have a giant party for them on the last week in January.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 5:19 pm to BurningHeart
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The block was paved without asphalt, designed to maximize shade, and painted white to reflect heat.
Some groundbreaking stuff there
Posted on 6/6/24 at 5:31 pm to MightyYat
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I would still challenger her "15° cooler" claim.
I think if you reread you will note that she stated "felt 15 degrees cooler”. It is generally useless to challenge a subjective claim but it you don't think that an area designed for shade and using reflective colors wouldn't "feel" 15 degrees cooler to a lot of people in a place known for 110 degree and above temps I don't really know what to say.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 6:37 pm to LegendInMyMind
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So, nothing quantifiable?
That’s racist now, baw
Posted on 6/6/24 at 7:55 pm to BurningHeart
Very low average relative humidity in Phoenix, especially in the shade, can make it “feel” 15 degrees cooler by itself.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 8:45 pm to Boudreauboudreaugoly
" You'll love it here, even with the sunroof open
your hair will always looks good"
your hair will always looks good"
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