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re: I support Work From Home, but....

Posted on 12/19/24 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65900 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 5:52 pm to
I talk to someone often and there is always a kid distracting him and the call. It's annoying but we push through it.

I was on a video sales call with a prospect and one of our partners The other day. The partner had his background blurred but you could see the shape of his dog creep into view on the side, stare for a few seconds, then nudge him repeatedly with his paw. Partner never broke eye contact or momentum. I was cracking up.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:02 pm to
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Working from home is not an excuse to stop paying for daycare.



I'll take the apparently unpopular position here:

1) Kids don't belong in daycare until they are at least 2-3 years old
2) WFH allows working parents to spend time with their kids during the day
3) Daycare costs have risen and social trust has declined

In short -- it is better for young kids, better for parents, and better for household finances. It might be worse for employers and perhaps customers/clients, but there are few compelling reasons why working parents should care considering all the upside.

ETA: Obviously, the incentive structures are changing given the trend toward RTO, and working parents may not be able to WFH for much longer. Shame -- it was an opportunity to reimagine work to make it more palatable for children and humans more generally.

Go ahead and downvote -- I'm sure this take is unpopular but honestly IDGAF about social norms anymore.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 6:07 pm
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
2142 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:20 pm to
Kids interrupting, dogs barking, getting up and doing stuff instead of engaging, being on camera with bed head, all these things gave the impression WFH was a joke. If people took it seriously, it wouldn't be under threat.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15674 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:32 pm to
I’m sympathetic to background kid noise during the holidays though.
Posted by RedmanChew
Member since Jun 2024
447 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Some of them sound like they office under a highway overpass or out of a daycare also.


I asked a Filipino rep one time about his commute, he said he drove 2 hours in extreme traffic (20 miles total) both ways and works a 15 hr shift.

I gotta say man, capitalism can have its limitations.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11461 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:18 pm to
I stay muted when not talking in meetings.

It’s annoying when some have noises going on through their mics when others are speaking.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10395 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:57 pm to
I had that rooster from Malaysia crowing and I asked where you from. It's def annoying.
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
831 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:05 am to
Lmao eat an a-hole
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18559 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:07 am to
I would be fine with work from home as long as no other family member was at home at the same time.

Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1383 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:09 am to
Ha! I just had a conversation with a State Farm person. I could barely understand her due to the toddler talking/crying in the background.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7516 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:20 am to
Been working from home most of the time for about 20 years. The company I now work for shut down the office during Covid (a branch, not the headquarters) and then closed it permanently. So they would have to open a new office if they wanted to make people come back to the office. If they did that, I would quit.

WFH works for some jobs and some folks, but not for every situation. It's not a binary situation. It saves me a 45-minute commute, lunch expenses/hassles, and other things. I can work from anywhere that offers an internet connection.

A good manager can tell if work is being done.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2508 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:28 am to
quote:

I'll take the apparently unpopular position here:

1) Kids don't belong in daycare until they are at least 2-3 years old
2) WFH allows working parents to spend time with their kids during the day
3) Daycare costs have risen and social trust has declined

In short -- it is better for young kids, better for parents, and better for household finances. It might be worse for employers and perhaps customers/clients, but there are few compelling reasons why working parents should care considering all the upside.

I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion at all, but I am torn.

I’ve WFH exclusively since 2017 and it is something that I have always truly valued. I’d take a pay cut to continue doing it if push came to shove. So I put a good bit of effort into making sure that everyone knows that I take the job seriously and there is no difference between me being here and me being in downtown ATL.

I think that’s the main issue with WFH, people against it don’t take it seriously and in fairness, it’s hard to do that when you’re talking to someone who’s sitting in their living room and you hear their kids in the background.

Having said that, you’re 100% correct. It’s wonderful for parents and I’d be lying if I said that I didn’t take advantage of that as a dad. My team is half remote/half hybrid so we’re used to occasionally hearing kids and pets in the background. Literally Monday I had to pause mid-sentence while talking to my boss to unlock the front door for my kid who just got off the bus. It’s never an issue for us because we all know we can rely on each other.

I guess that’s what matters in the end. Are you actually getting work done or are you collecting a check from a company while you care for your kids. A good company with solid management should be able to figure this out.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
4010 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:35 am to
I had to ask a "service" rep to mute the TV as I said I had watched that show on netflix. Did not embarrass her at all.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1383 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:00 am to
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1) Kids don't belong in daycare until they are at least 2-3 years old 2) WFH allows working parents to spend time with their kids during the day


I agree that at home is the ideal situation for the first few years, but it's physically impossible to adequately care for a child AND simultaneously put in a full day of work. Is said child just watching TV all day?

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130113 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:06 am to
I work from home, but have a dedicated workspace and no one bothers me during my work hours. Family rule.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
21136 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:18 am to
I work multiple jobs and one of them is WFH. It is easier to concentrate without coworkers interrupting me.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28190 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:24 am to
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Work from home is killing the American man as we know it.


Nobody wants to leave the house box they live in. Stay in that box all day every day, have everything delivered so you never have to leave. Our neighbors both work from home. I never see them leave their house or be outside. They are in their mid 30s. They live in that box like hamsters. Always packages on their porch for food and supplies.

What an existence. To each their own though. I'm fairly certain their situation is not unique.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3797 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:33 am to
Can some explain why is it so bad to work from home? I see the same people that complain about this complain about people not having kids or people moving to cities to find work.

Since I started WFH, I've been able to be around my kids more and was able to move closer to my parents. If I didn't have that opportunity I would probably still be in Dallas spending $750 a month for one kid to go to childcare.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 8:35 am
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2508 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:21 am to
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Nobody wants to leave the house box they live in. Stay in that box all day every day, have everything delivered so you never have to leave. Our neighbors both work from home. I never see them leave their house or be outside. They are in their mid 30s. They live in that box like hamsters. Always packages on their porch for food and supplies.

What an existence. To each their own though. I'm fairly certain their situation is not unique.

If they didn’t WFH, they’d live in a combination cubicle/car/house box and you’d still never see them.

Doesn’t sound like a WFH problem, just sounds like your neighbors are hermits.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
53451 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:29 am to
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have all my screens setup, standing desk, coffee and snacks etc.
I have all of this at home

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