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re: I said, "My name is Patrick!"(police bodycam)

Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:18 pm to
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then why not ask to see his ID?



you didn't know? The kid could have shot them!

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:18 pm to
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then why not ask to see his ID?




felt a need to get suspect out of vehicle first.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:18 pm to
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me too cause getting out of a car, potential dangerous scenario, is so the same as a backseat blowie.



doesn't matter

comply
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:18 pm to
yummie
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
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He started to not comply when they told him to get out of the car to arrest him and he wanted to know what for and they NEVER TOLD HIM


I think he started before that, but I'm just a bootlicker.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
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felt a need to get suspect out of vehicle first.



he doesn't have to get out of the vehicle
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
There are real dumbasses commenting on this thread. He didn't deserve to be treated like that. Ask for his ID, problem solved.

Don't go in hostile when cops don't know who he is. Storm trooper T/POS stuff right here.
Lazy police work once again making it harder on all of us just like the stupid kill all cops BLM segment. The nut jobs on both sides needed to evaporate off this planet

This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
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What law did this cop break?
Assault
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
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I think he started before that


when he was telling them his correct name?

what?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
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Assault
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
If folks would just start most unplanned encounters with law enforcement with something like, "Officer(s), what is the issue? I'd like to cooperate in any way that I can." - there would be far fewer violent interactions. Even if you're ultimately going to clam up and ask for a lawyer, at that point, you've initiated a non-violent dialogue, rather than verbally/physically resisted.

I'm not saying this means "comply or die" - but rather "be civil and live." It's a subtle difference, but an important one.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
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he doesn't have to get out of the vehicle




is this salmon talking or is this actual law enforcement rules and regs?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
Cops were definitely in the wrong but if he would have done what they asked the situation could have been avoided. I live in Savannah and the crime is out of control for a town this size. Their are armed robberies, drive bys, murders nearly every day. It is not excuse for the cops behavior but I would imagine they are a little on edge.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
frick those cops. Anyone trying to defend them is a fricking moron
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
I bash cops on here. But with the tensions rt now, just fricking comply with them. Why fricking resist?

I'm not saying cops abusing power and messing with people is right, but it would never have gone there if he just got out the car.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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felt a need to get suspect out of vehicle first.



I think you mean wrong suspect, and why did they feel the need to get him out of the car? There's 2 cops there. 1 gets the warrant (per the damn law) and the other watches the kid. Tell the kid you'll get the warrant and while yo're doing that, he needs to find some ID showing he is Patrick.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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Seems like just getting out would have been the better play, no?
Why are we only focused on his moves, and not the cop's bad plays, since they had more and they were ultimately at fault here.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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felt a need to get suspect out of vehicle first.
So why did they lie about asking him for his ID?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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is this salmon talking or is this actual law enforcement rules and regs?


cops cannot force you to get out of your vehicle on your property if you did not do anything wrong or without probably cause
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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yeah, a law abiding citizen should comply with officer demands. too many cops die all the time in situations like this. Ok, this was a good ole kid, that's not always the case.

I think you would be happier in North Korea.
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