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re: I just turned down "the vaccine". Update pg 13.

Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by omarlittle
Member since Mar 2011
1301 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:12 pm to
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I think your only obligation is to be damn sure you don’t give the virus to anyone else if you catch it


If anyone else is worried about me giving it to them, they should vaccinate themselves. Not my problem.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31104 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:15 pm to
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The COVID vaccine is a messenger RNA vaccine, a type which has never been used before, so you have never taken a vaccine like this.


Except about 70,000 people in phase 3 trials where the data was scrutinized to no end, like every other drug that comes before the FDA.
Posted by rmplfrskn
Member since Aug 2020
8 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:16 pm to
Wrong. No one in the Pfizer trial died of covid. Either the vaccine or placebo group.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:17 pm to
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I know almost no docs who are


I am not taking it. I am not an anti vaccines or any crazy stuff, I just need to see more long term studies.

I know a few colleagues who are also holding off.

Also, they don't even know how long the vaccine will be effective.

Getting covid doesn't protect you forever either, we have already had 2 reinfections.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31104 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:17 pm to
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I bet you can't wait to tell EVERYBODY about it


I'd bet my next paycheck he's got a post just like his OP on Facebook. Can anyone confirm?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64184 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:17 pm to
Declined mine as well. Hospital getting it next week. Only 1/29 people in department elected to take it and she’s in her 60s.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120257 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:18 pm to
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No one in the Pfizer trial died of covid. Either the vaccine or placebo group.



I thought 1 person in placebo died of covid
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31104 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:19 pm to
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no proof of effectiveness


Jesus Tapdancing Christ. I can't with some of you morons.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31104 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:20 pm to
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RN myself, so why take an unproven vaccine for a disease that has a greater than 99% survival rate if you are not Obese and 80?


The fact that you don't know this answer makes me think you don't deserve that nursing license.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25735 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:22 pm to
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I thought 1 person in placebo died of covid
I believe that was the Moderna trial.
I plan on getting it as soon as it’s offered which may be next week.
Posted by bakersman
Grant parish
Member since Apr 2011
5708 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Polio vaccine says hello.


They started working on the polio vaccine in the 1930’s and didn’t have an effective vaccine until 1953
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31104 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Neither group knew what they got


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Did participants in any group alter their day-to-day behavior


I fricking can't. The dumb. It's overwhelming
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6974 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:23 pm to
Let everyone else take care of the herd immunity
Posted by rmplfrskn
Member since Aug 2020
8 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:24 pm to
Two BNT162b2 recipients died (one from arteriosclerosis, one from cardiac arrest), as did four placebo recipients (two from unknown causes, one from hemorrhagic stroke, and one from myocardial infarction). No deaths were considered by the investigators to be related to the vaccine or placebo. No Covid-19–associated deaths were observed

Straight from the nejm article
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36352 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:25 pm to
My mother took it today, she had to due to the patients she works with. I pray its all well for her
Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
Member since Mar 2006
1794 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:26 pm to
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I fricking can't. The dumb. It's overwhelming


:kige:
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2792 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:26 pm to
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fricking can't. The dumb. It's overwhelming


Having significant concern about a potential statistically relevant difference in behavior between two groups of 20,000 people to the point where efficacy is overstated (or whatever the concern is) might be the dumbest thing I’ve seen in these threads
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11278 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:30 pm to
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Why is it dumb to not want a rushed vaccine for a virus that’s been here less than a year and has a 99% survival rate? What are the long term side effects of this vaccine?



Says the guy posting as tigergirl
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:31 pm to
I'm counting on the anti-vaxxers so I can move up in line.
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3371 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:32 pm to
I’m probably weird but I think I’d take it if given the opportunity. Not because I’m worried about Covid at all but because I’m sure it’s going to be required for nearly all international travel and I’m ready to dust off the passport and go places.
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