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re: Hurricane Milton - The Cleanup Begins...
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:01 pm to HoboDickCheese
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:01 pm to HoboDickCheese
quote:you shove everybody in that suburban and get out
but what about the “high end” cars?
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:01 pm to JonTheTigerFan
quote:
We are 50 yards to the east from I-75. It actually kind of acts like a barrier.
An interstate acts like a barrier from a category 5 hurricane???
It will be a cat 3 at landfall. If you are East of I-75, you are not in danger of flooding. If you don’t have any tall trees surrounding your house, you are literally in no danger whatsoever. Your only issue is no power. Staying is not that big a deal.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:02 pm to tiger91
quote:
1) when was your house built? Like did you build way post code? Idk anything about codes there.
Built in late 2001. It took very little extra to build to the codes that came into law in 2004. Strap the damned roof to the house, Earl!
quote:
2) was it super pricey to build to whatever standards you built?
It cost more than my house in BR. Zillow says it is worth almost 3x what it cost in 2001.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:03 pm to doublecutter
My 18 year old thinks she is going to be able to drive to Gainesville tomorrow morning from Tally get her boyfriend. Then drive here to PVB. She won’t listen to me to just stay in Tally.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:04 pm to liz18lsu
quote:
I am willing it away
“Will” that fricker further south
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:04 pm to liz18lsu
quote:
liz18lsu
quote:
we are in Zone B, which was given a mandatory evac today
Just wanted to come in and say that you're a freaking idiot for staying. Peacocking against an inanimate object like a hurricane proves nothing and is stupid. The only prize you'll win is death if you're unlucky or living in literal shitwater for a few weeks on the good side.
I sincerely hope you reconsider, it's stupid to stay.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:04 pm to MSUDawg98
MSU I have no clue what you’re referring to. I was just commenting about our guys got home and are back on the road as someone mentioned many crews still working on Helene outages.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:04 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:
exactly - I mean I have 6 kids, too, so I understand the hotel expense, the food expense, etc - but you can’t just stay.
If one of your options involves a high likelihood of drowning I would say to avoid that option. You could buy a tent and post up in a campground near Miami if that's what it came down to.
Staying with young kids in a flood zone for a cat 5 should be viewed as negligent homicide.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:05 pm to GreenRockTiger
But what if it’s an older model Porsche or Vette that only holds two?
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:06 pm to tide06
quote:agreed, staying in a flood zone for a hurricane cat 3 or above should be considered negligent homicide
Staying with young kids in a flood zone for a cat 5 should be viewed as negligent homicide.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:07 pm to Tammany Tom
10 PM CDT Advisory
BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 12
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
...CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE MILTON MOVING NEAR THE NORTHERN COAST OF
THE YUCATAN PENINSULA...
...MILTON POSES AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS THREAT TO FLORIDA AND
RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF LOCAL OFFICIALS...
SUMMARY OF 1000 PM CDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.8N 89.9W
ABOUT 35 MI...60 KM NNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 630 MI...1015 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH...270 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...E OR 90 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...914 MB...26.99 INCHES
Hurricane Milton Discussion Number 12
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
Both Air Force and NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft have been
investigating Milton. Earlier, the Hurricane Hunters found that the
minimum central pressure in the eye had dropped to an estimated 897
mb. Based on this, Milton had the fifth lowest central pressure in
the Atlantic basin hurricane record. Subsequent center penetrations
by the aircraft indicated somewhat higher central pressures. Also,
flight-level and dropsonde data from the aircraft suggested some
decrease in intensity, and the advisory intensity is set to 145 kt.
The decrease is likely the result of an eyewall replacement reported
by the Hurricane Hunters, leading to a double wind maximum radially
from the center. Notwithstanding, Milton still remains an extremely
dangerous Category 5 hurricane.
The initial motion is eastward, or 090/8 kt. Milton should continue
to pass close to the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula tonight
and early Tuesday. Then, the flow on the eastern side of a
mid-tropospheric shortwave trough dropping into the northwestern
Gulf of Mexico should cause Milton to move east-northeastward to
northeastward at a faster forward speed later on Tuesday and
Wednesday. This motion should take the system across the Florida
peninsula on Thursday. Later in the forecast period, Milton is
expected to move east-northeastward to eastward over the Atlantic
waters off the southeast U.S. coast while gradually losing tropical
characteristics. The official track forecast is close to, but a
little faster than, the model consensus. This is also very similar
to the previous NHC forecast. As noted earlier, the track is closer
to the model predicted fields rather than the model trackers which
appear to be too far south.
So long as Milton remains in an environment of light shear and over
very high oceanic heat content, its maximum intensity should be
governed more by inner-core fluctuations. However the SHIPS
diagnostics indicate a significant increase in vertical wind shear
within 24 hours, likely associated with increasing southwesterly
upper-level flow over the eastern Gulf of Mexico. Therefore a
decrease in intensity is predicted before Milton reaches the western
coast of the Florida Peninsula. Regardless of the peak intensity,
the eyewall replacement cycle will likely lead to an expansion of
the destructive inner core of the hurricane during the next day or
two. The system is expected to be a large and powerful hurricane at
landfall in Florida, with life-threatening hazards at the coastline
and well inland. Residents in Florida should closely follow the
orders from their local emergency management officials, as Milton
has the potential to be one of the most destructive hurricanes on
record for west-central Florida.
Key Messages:
1. Damaging hurricane-force winds and a life-threatening storm surge
with destructive waves are expected across portions of the northern
coast of the Yucatan Peninsula through tonight.
2. Milton is expected to grow in size and remain an extremely
dangerous hurricane when it approaches the west coast of Florida on
Wednesday. A large area of destructive storm surge will occur along
parts of the west coast of Florida on Wednesday. This is an
extremely life-threatening situation and residents in those areas
should follow advice given by local officials and evacuate
immediately if told to do so.
3. Potentially devastating hurricane-force winds are expected along
portions of the west coast of Florida where a Hurricane Warning is
in effect. Milton is forecast to remain a hurricane as it crosses
the Florida Peninsula and life-threatening hurricane-force winds,
especially in gusts, are expected to spread inland across a portion
of the entire Florida Peninsula. Preparations to protect life and
property in the warning areas should be complete by Tuesday night
since tropical storm conditions are expected to begin within this
area early Wednesday.
4. Areas of heavy rainfall will continue to impact portions of
Florida well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly
related to the system expected Tuesday night through early Thursday.
This rainfall brings the risk of considerable flash, urban, and
areal flooding, along with moderate to major river flooding.
Flooding will be exacerbated in areas where coastal and inland
flooding combine to increase the overall threat.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 08/0300Z 21.8N 89.9W 145 KT 165 MPH
12H 08/1200Z 22.3N 88.6W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 09/0000Z 23.5N 86.7W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 09/1200Z 25.0N 84.9W 125 KT 145 MPH
48H 10/0000Z 27.1N 83.3W 110 KT 125 MPH
60H 10/1200Z 28.6N 80.9W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND
72H 11/0000Z 29.4N 77.6W 75 KT 85 MPH...OVER WATER
96H 12/0000Z 30.3N 69.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 13/0000Z 31.0N 63.0W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
$$
Forecaster Pasch
BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 12
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
...CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE MILTON MOVING NEAR THE NORTHERN COAST OF
THE YUCATAN PENINSULA...
...MILTON POSES AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS THREAT TO FLORIDA AND
RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF LOCAL OFFICIALS...
SUMMARY OF 1000 PM CDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.8N 89.9W
ABOUT 35 MI...60 KM NNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 630 MI...1015 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH...270 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...E OR 90 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...914 MB...26.99 INCHES
Hurricane Milton Discussion Number 12
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
Both Air Force and NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft have been
investigating Milton. Earlier, the Hurricane Hunters found that the
minimum central pressure in the eye had dropped to an estimated 897
mb. Based on this, Milton had the fifth lowest central pressure in
the Atlantic basin hurricane record. Subsequent center penetrations
by the aircraft indicated somewhat higher central pressures. Also,
flight-level and dropsonde data from the aircraft suggested some
decrease in intensity, and the advisory intensity is set to 145 kt.
The decrease is likely the result of an eyewall replacement reported
by the Hurricane Hunters, leading to a double wind maximum radially
from the center. Notwithstanding, Milton still remains an extremely
dangerous Category 5 hurricane.
The initial motion is eastward, or 090/8 kt. Milton should continue
to pass close to the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula tonight
and early Tuesday. Then, the flow on the eastern side of a
mid-tropospheric shortwave trough dropping into the northwestern
Gulf of Mexico should cause Milton to move east-northeastward to
northeastward at a faster forward speed later on Tuesday and
Wednesday. This motion should take the system across the Florida
peninsula on Thursday. Later in the forecast period, Milton is
expected to move east-northeastward to eastward over the Atlantic
waters off the southeast U.S. coast while gradually losing tropical
characteristics. The official track forecast is close to, but a
little faster than, the model consensus. This is also very similar
to the previous NHC forecast. As noted earlier, the track is closer
to the model predicted fields rather than the model trackers which
appear to be too far south.
So long as Milton remains in an environment of light shear and over
very high oceanic heat content, its maximum intensity should be
governed more by inner-core fluctuations. However the SHIPS
diagnostics indicate a significant increase in vertical wind shear
within 24 hours, likely associated with increasing southwesterly
upper-level flow over the eastern Gulf of Mexico. Therefore a
decrease in intensity is predicted before Milton reaches the western
coast of the Florida Peninsula. Regardless of the peak intensity,
the eyewall replacement cycle will likely lead to an expansion of
the destructive inner core of the hurricane during the next day or
two. The system is expected to be a large and powerful hurricane at
landfall in Florida, with life-threatening hazards at the coastline
and well inland. Residents in Florida should closely follow the
orders from their local emergency management officials, as Milton
has the potential to be one of the most destructive hurricanes on
record for west-central Florida.
Key Messages:
1. Damaging hurricane-force winds and a life-threatening storm surge
with destructive waves are expected across portions of the northern
coast of the Yucatan Peninsula through tonight.
2. Milton is expected to grow in size and remain an extremely
dangerous hurricane when it approaches the west coast of Florida on
Wednesday. A large area of destructive storm surge will occur along
parts of the west coast of Florida on Wednesday. This is an
extremely life-threatening situation and residents in those areas
should follow advice given by local officials and evacuate
immediately if told to do so.
3. Potentially devastating hurricane-force winds are expected along
portions of the west coast of Florida where a Hurricane Warning is
in effect. Milton is forecast to remain a hurricane as it crosses
the Florida Peninsula and life-threatening hurricane-force winds,
especially in gusts, are expected to spread inland across a portion
of the entire Florida Peninsula. Preparations to protect life and
property in the warning areas should be complete by Tuesday night
since tropical storm conditions are expected to begin within this
area early Wednesday.
4. Areas of heavy rainfall will continue to impact portions of
Florida well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly
related to the system expected Tuesday night through early Thursday.
This rainfall brings the risk of considerable flash, urban, and
areal flooding, along with moderate to major river flooding.
Flooding will be exacerbated in areas where coastal and inland
flooding combine to increase the overall threat.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 08/0300Z 21.8N 89.9W 145 KT 165 MPH
12H 08/1200Z 22.3N 88.6W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 09/0000Z 23.5N 86.7W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 09/1200Z 25.0N 84.9W 125 KT 145 MPH
48H 10/0000Z 27.1N 83.3W 110 KT 125 MPH
60H 10/1200Z 28.6N 80.9W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND
72H 11/0000Z 29.4N 77.6W 75 KT 85 MPH...OVER WATER
96H 12/0000Z 30.3N 69.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 13/0000Z 31.0N 63.0W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
$$
Forecaster Pasch
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:07 pm to HoboDickCheese
quote:pick your favorite kids and get out
But what if it’s an older model Porsche or Vette that only holds two?
Make multiple trips
Don’t have a two seater when you have half a dozen kids
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:08 pm to tiger91
quote:
sleep in the car in a Walmart parking lot in Miami
My thought exactly. Pull it next to the wall at Walmart and use that to shield the wind. I learned that trick from JeffP after the Blue Shed's car warsh blew apart.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:09 pm to Mr Roboto
quote:
She’s in the evacuation zone but has no where to go that’s affordable for her family size
For god sakes lady you can’t evacuate because you have 6 kids and 4 dogs?!
People like this are pathetic. Leave the 4 dogs and 1 kid with some Haitians and evacuate now.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:09 pm to Hangit
Blue shed
Blue house
What will it be this time???
Blue house
What will it be this time???
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:13 pm to Oates Mustache
quote:
Just wanted to come in and say that you're a freaking idiot for staying.
Come on now, Oates. Those of us that have been around here long enough all know Liz will pop in at some point Wednesday saying they decided to leave at the last minute and asking for prayers. Thursday through Monday, she will post about the condition of her house, update all on what stores are open, needing input on how to return home, and sending bikini pics from the calm beach after such destruction.
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