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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Pastalaya
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
825 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:00 am to
c'mon sketties...turn back into the ocean
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21047 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:05 am to
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These tweets are just unnecessary hype. Taking a southwesterly turn 3000 miles from the US doesn't mean a damn thing about what it will do in a week.


Absolutely. Climo taking as a whole can be useful. Individual storm tracks from the past are worthless at predicting anything that might happen.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:09 am to
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However, pretty much all models are in the short term with this system. Big key, how much lat does it gain in the next 24hrs before bending back SW.


The eventual path pretty much depends on that big Atlantic ridge, how strong it is and it's general orientation correct? Will the big trough at the later part of the run provide an opening for Irma to cut NE.

In the short term, what impact will that little upper low shown at around 45 W and 25 N have on the evolution of the high?



Could that affect the short term progression north before the SW bend?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:12 am to
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Absolutely. Climo taking as a whole can be useful. Individual storm tracks from the past are worthless at predicting anything that might happen.


It's irresponsible fear mongering.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100571 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:45 am to
Damn that euro path could put it in the gulf after landfall in Cuba.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100571 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:46 am to
Something else there are 2 more low systems behind Irma expected to come off the African coast
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:47 am to


Amazing what low wind shear can mean for a storm. Eye clearly starting to peek out. Outflow is strong. Looks incredibly healthy. What's amazing too is that the waters aren't all that warm. Will probably put the breaks on Irma getting 4-5 intense for the short term.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100571 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:48 am to
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If it did in fact go over the mountains it would get shredded,


Even then it would have the entire gulf to reorganize. We saw with Harvey it don't take much to go from TS to Cat 4
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100571 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:52 am to


Nope nope nope
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:52 am to
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Even then it would have the entire gulf to reorganize. We saw with Harvey it don't take much to go from TS to Cat 4


The Cuba mountains tear up storms, but it's not the meat grinder Hispaniola tends to be. Of course, better it doesn't hit Hispaniola because a TS is a humanitarian crisis in Haiti.
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5216 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:01 am to
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quote:
Even then it would have the entire gulf to reorganize. We saw with Harvey it don't take much to go from TS to Cat 4



The Cuba mountains tear up storms, but it's not the meat grinder Hispaniola tends to be. Of course, better it doesn't hit Hispaniola because a TS is a humanitarian crisis in Haiti.


Who cares. A TS hitting the gulf coast in the next 10 days would be devastating for all. Winds are important sure but if this thing makes it into the gulf then it is going to be much more eventful because of Harvey.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146457 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:04 am to
looks like the 12z GFS is currently running
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100571 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:07 am to
Why the downvotes? I mean nope as in I do not want that potential path. ( I know it was a hurricane from the 40s) but they can gtfo with that shite
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23452 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:13 am to
MF - a jump from 70 this morning to 100+ now.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146457 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:23 am to
looks like Irma starting to peek out in this model... next Thursday... still looks much further north than the Euro

Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146457 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:24 am to
yeah... GFS definitely keeping the recurve in place... making it a Bermuda or fish storm
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6432 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:26 am to


Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52509 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:26 am to
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looks like the 12z GFS is currently running

I'm liking the looks of it so far. No major development in GOM and Irma headed north. Only thing I don't like so far is that other system sneaking up behind Irma
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146457 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:28 am to
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I'm liking the looks of it so far. No major development in GOM and Irma headed north. Only thing I don't like so far is that other system sneaking up behind Irma

yeah... system B sitting way further south than Irma
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82713 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:29 am to
How are they able to map storm positions and intensities in the open ocean before satellites? Ship reports and island observations were sparse I'd imagine.
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