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re: Huge data center approved with 'aggressive timeline to build' in far northern BR suburbs

Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:23 am to
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When I think of northern Baton Rouge, I definitely think of a robust workforce.


St Francisville is not northern Baton Rouge. Northern Baton Rouge is Zachary.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:24 am to
You and the poster above are correct that data centers, and really anything that requires large amounts of electricity or cooling, will require large amounts of water, water is a resource that LA is abundant with.

The Mississippi, Atchafalaya, and Sabine Rivers all have readily was to treat, ample volumes available for industrial uses.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:27 am to
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Link?




Datacenter knowledge Source

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HVAC fans in data centers generate noise levels ranging from 55 to 85 dBA. This noise contributes to the loud humming and buzzing sounds that people commonly associate with data centers.


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According to Fairfax County Government NewsCenter, Virginia law has put limitations on data center locations primarily due to noise pollution. In Fairfax County, Va., data centers must be at least 200 feet away from any residential district or property, experts must conduct noise studies before and after data center construction to ensure noise regulations are met, and all equipment must be behind a barrier that further reduces noise.


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In Granbury, Texas, bitcoin mining consumes more energy in data centers and increases noise pollution. The community's main concern lies with Marathon Digital Holdings' bitcoin mining data center. The company has since been involved in legal complications as the community raises health concerns over noise pollution. According to Fort Worth Report, Marathon Digital Holdings has replaced 20% of the facility's cooling system with liquid immersion cooling and deactivated nearly 100 air-cooled containers since the lawsuits.


Tech Target article

Obviously they could spend the extra money on noise abatement systems, but based on previous systems. The city would need to enforce them to build it at the very beginning. One of the biggest helps would be liquid cooling, which is more costly and obviously uses more water.

Once again you should have the city demand these types of things before ever allowing them to move in
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:28 am to
That data center will hold all of your dick pics forever.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:31 am to
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Once again you should have the city demand these types of things before ever allowing them to move in


Never going to happen, namely because officials around this state largely do not care about their constituents. A ton of them run on the basis of "one of the people" and as many who grew up in Louisiana around "the people" might guess, as soon as they get into office they settle into the little bit of power they've been granted to either make money on the slick or seek validation by pandering to the crowd they think will get them reelected.

It's very easy to convince someone who doesn't have the capability and/or time to thinking beyond "more business=good", and they know that.

What a shite deal.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 8:33 am
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:33 am to
Good. Louisiana has water if nothing else.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:33 am to
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There have already been two articles posted on page 1 explaining this, one of them by me.


Yeah I saw your stupid pdf and responded to the other post.

Evaporative cooling doesn’t consume shite. It transforms water from liquid to vapor, which re-transforms to liquid again once it’s cooled off again in the clouds.

You environannies are such fakes. Why are you like that?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16615 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:35 am to
Data centers require almost very few workers to sustain and eat up tons of power and resources.

Honestly they aren’t that great to attract when all is said and done.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:36 am to
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HVAC fans in data centers generate noise levels ranging from 55 to 85 dBA. This noise contributes to the loud humming and buzzing sounds that people commonly associate with data centers.


Inside the data centers, but not outside.

You’ll stand on the street in front of this data center and not hear a thing from it.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11712 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:36 am to
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Evaporative cooling doesn’t consume shite. It transforms water from liquid to vapor, which re-transforms to liquid again once it’s cooled off again in the clouds.



By that logic, no industrial heating or cooling system “consumes” water.

ETA: The obvious issue (to everyone else, apparently) is aquifer drawdown. Nobody cares if they are clarifying river water.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 8:39 am
Posted by coastland909
Member since Nov 2024
412 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:36 am to
This is simply expanding Commercial and State Mass Surveillance.

Read about it here: PDF LINK

ETA: LINK to Mullvad Source
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55423 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:37 am to
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There’s a strong fiberoptic infrastructure along Interstate 10

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Hut 8 plans to build the data center on a 611-acre parcel off La. 964 on the southern end of the parish.


Strange wording here. Is there already fiber along 61, are they planning on running a new line all the way from 10 or is there a wider fiber "corridor" centered around I-10 that the writer didn't get correct?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:39 am to
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Evaporative cooling doesn’t consume shite. It transforms water from liquid to vapor, which re-transforms to liquid again once it’s cooled off again in the clouds.



It takes water from the underground aquifers and puts it into the water cycle in such a way that it pretty much never returns to the aquifers.

AI and all these data centers are the biggest threat to freshwater we have right now. But sure, we're all environuts.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:39 am to
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By that logic, no industrial heating or cooling system “consumes” water.


It’s correct. They don’t.

Maybe your eyes are opening on the scare tactics you’ve been subjected all your life.
Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
1800 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:42 am to
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With that much floor space, the 50 are probably going to be power/HVAC or other site reliability engineers, for when you actually need something to be physically unplugged.


This isn’t gonna be staffed like a chem plant baw. They’re gonna contract all that out always. It’s going to mainly be for admins.

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AWS


Is already dealing with their bad location decisions. I think they pulled the “we’re competing with NVIDIA” move to get public investment to cover that difference. In short, they chose historical industrial locations of America for their new data centers and those cities don’t have enough power to run the data centers they have built.

So whoop de do indeed. Smaller states have an edge to improve their power capacity and get jobs for their area. Hopefully contracts drawn prohibit H1B visas.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
164961 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:43 am to
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Tell me more about the recurring water demands for a data center.

They use a lot of water for cooling

Data centers of this size will probably use more water than about 80K homes in the BR area
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2629 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:44 am to
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The reason this data center is going up there is because it can consume power from the 3 massive generators there - Big Cajun 1, Big Cajun 2, and Riverbend Station.


Uh……..

Do you realize just how much power these things require? It’s going to require a MASSIVE expansion to production, as many as 3 new generators. The reason St Francisville was picked is for the water and fuel (natural gas) proximity. Biggest hurdle for this thing to really materialize is securing financing. Entergy isn’t going to budge until a substantial portion of their outlay is paid up front.

META is footing the bill for power outlay in NE Louisiana. They just stroked a check. On the other hand, this group has a number of hurdles before agreements can be executed.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:44 am to
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It takes water from the underground aquifers and puts it into the water cycle in such a way that it pretty much never returns to the aquifers.


Maintaining a baseball field does the exact same thing. Maybe we should bulldoze every single baseball field in the world.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77240 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:44 am to
St. Francisville has been talked about being the next big suburb of Baton Rouge for almost 30 years now.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39771 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:45 am to
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Evaporative cooling doesn’t consume shite. It transforms water from liquid to vapor, which re-transforms to liquid again once it’s cooled off again in the clouds.


Do the clouds stay local to the evaporative cooling tower or does that water vapor distribute elsewhere?

Data centers require hundreds, if not thousands of gallons of water per minute to make-up for the evaporative losses as well as the purging losses (blow down) of these systems. We can argue whether this water is consumed, but bottom line is that these centers take water out of the environment in one way or another and doesn’t replace it in kind.
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