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re: How would you make this poker ruling?
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:28 pm to Breesus
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:28 pm to Breesus
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Look, I'm not that into dudes
Good, neither am I.
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But I appreciate the compliment
You're welcome. You just so rarely post anything worth reading it was a nice change of pace.
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I'd probably let you do stuff to me, if you wanted, but don't plan on me reciprocating or anything.
Grow up, Son.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 4:29 pm
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:30 pm to LCA131
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Good, neither am I.
Are you sure?
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You just so rarely post anything worth reading out was a nice change of pace
Out was a nice change indeed.
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Grow up, Son.
You into that bizarre incest porn?
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:33 pm to Breesus
So since you now realize your post about poker was WRONG, you'll misdirect like this?
Pretty mature.
Pretty mature.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:34 pm to PeteRose
A dealer is supposed to “tap the muck” with a live hand (making it dead) before exposing a hand.
If the dealer did their job correctly, Player A wins this pot 100%.
End of conversation.
If the dealer did their job correctly, Player A wins this pot 100%.
End of conversation.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:35 pm to PeteRose
Player B folded so there is nothing to argue about.
Where were you playing? So if the dealer wouldn't have showed player B's hand then no one would have ever known? Either way, as soon as player B said "fold" that's it. It is player A's pot. Player B could have argued all he wanted to, but the dealer should have continued the game.
This is possibly a bullshite story, because there shouldn't have been any question.
Where were you playing? So if the dealer wouldn't have showed player B's hand then no one would have ever known? Either way, as soon as player B said "fold" that's it. It is player A's pot. Player B could have argued all he wanted to, but the dealer should have continued the game.
This is possibly a bullshite story, because there shouldn't have been any question.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:39 pm to Florida225
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If the dealer did their job correctly, Player A wins this pot 100%.
End of conversation
Absolutely wrong.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:40 pm to Florida225
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A dealer is supposed to “tap the muck” with a live hand (making it dead) before exposing a hand
Most of the time yes, but not in this situation.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:41 pm to OweO
Don't add anything to the o p, you dolt. Where does it say that player b spoke the word "fold"?
He said nice hand and put his cards down, but not in the muck pile.
He said nice hand and put his cards down, but not in the muck pile.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:45 pm to OweO
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Player B folded
No he didn't. He called. The call was binding. Even if he tries to muck the call is still binding. Once they are exposed as winners player B takes the pot. The binding action is all that matters if they have not been in the muck.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:49 pm to PeteRose
I wouldn’t. I’m not trashy, therefore I don’t play poker
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:54 pm to Ham Solo
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Ham Solo
I think you've done all you can in this thread.
After explaining it numerous times (and having some other guy post the rules on page 3), if people are still too thick to believe you, going over it one more time probably won't help.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:55 pm to Walking the Earth
I know. It just drives me crazy. It's not that hard.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:56 pm to CoachChappy
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The dealer shouldn’t and can’t show a mucked hand.
This. This is the only argument player B had. You can't ask the dealer "show me such and such player's hand". If someone shows their hand then that's fine, but having the option to show or muck your hand, IMO, is a strategic part of the game.
Let's say I won a few pots having the best hand. I sort of established myself as a "non bullshite" type player. There is a hand when I am the second to last to call, everyone in front of me folds. If I check, then I let the last player to limp in (assuming they don't have a big hand) so I raise just to feel him out.
If I have a shite hand, the best outcome for me is that by me raising it will make that person fold. If they raise, they either have something worth seeing the flop or they are being reckless and decide to call, with a shite hand as well, but they think I am bluffing, but they do end up folding. If I showed the table my hand then I let everyone know when I am willing to be a "risky" player so if that person folds and then they ask the dealer to show them my hand, I would be pissed.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:59 pm to OweO
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You can't ask the dealer "show me such and such player's hand"
Yes you can. Any player dealt into that hand could have asked to see it. Had it been anyone other than the better that asked the dealer would have tapped the muck killing the hand first.
Because the better asked it stays live. Regulars do not ask to see hands for this very reason.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:08 pm to OweO
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I sort of established myself as a "non bullshite" type player.
I think we call this "ABC" player.
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so I raise just to feel him out.
The book said this is Old Man Coffee thinking. It says to raise so you can get more money from the other guy, or raise to make the other guy fold a better hand than yours. It kind of makes sense.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:14 pm to Ham Solo
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Hang out in a card room for a couple days and you will see this multiple times. People get distracted. Usually happens when someone is chasing a flush and they hit a straight and don't see it because they were so focused on a flush.
This wasn't in a casino, but there is a place that has a hold em tournament every Monday and there is usually anywhere between 15-25 players playing (just depends on that week, who has to work, work late, etc).
One night I had a pair of Aces and an Ace came up on the flop so I had 3 A's. It came down to me and another guy, I raised and he folded. He showed his hand. He had.. I think a 10 and Q (same suit). On the flop, an A, Q and maybe a 5 or something came up. The turn and river were the same suit so there were 3 cards of the same suit on the table. Since I was the only one who didn't fold, he called. I checked through, then after the river I made a pretty big raise. I didn't think he was chasing the flush, if he wasn't he wouldn't have beat 3 As. He folded and showed his hand. Someone pointed out to him he had a flush, he just shrugged his shoulders.. It didn't matter because he folded. Like I said, this wasn't a game being run by a professional dealer or anything, but everyone knows.. If you fold, it doesn't matter.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:19 pm to PeteRose
his scenario doesn't even makes sense
wut
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There is a hand when I am the second to last to call, everyone in front of me folds. If I check
wut
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Home game
SFP
SFP
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:27 pm to PeteRose
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Dead Hands
Your hand is declared dead if:
You fold or announce that you are folding when facing a bet or a raise.
You throw your hand away in a forward motion causing another player to act behind you (even if not facing a bet).
In stud, when facing a bet, you pick your upcards off the table, turn your upcards facedown, or mix your upcards and downcards together.
The hand does not contain the proper number of cards for that poker form (except at stud a hand missing the final card may be ruled live, and at lowball and draw high a hand with too few cards before the draw is live). [See Section 16 - Explanations, discussion #4, for more information on the stud portion of this rule.]
You act on a hand with a joker as a hole card in a game not using a joker. (A player who acts on a hand without looking at a card assumes the liability of finding an improper card, as given in Irregularities, rule #8.)
You have the clock on you when facing a bet or raise and exceed the specified time limit.
Cards thrown into the muck may be ruled dead. However, a hand that is clearly identifiable may be retrieved if doing so is in the best interest of the game. An extra effort should be made to rule a hand retrievable if it was folded as a result of false information given to the player.
Cards thrown into another player's hand are dead, whether they are faceup or facedown.
LINK
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:30 pm to OweO
True to form, your post is lengthy and is wrong.
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