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re: How would you make this poker ruling?

Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:32 am to
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:32 am to
man, we got a lot of clueless know it alls in OT.

quote:

why would player A ask to see a losers hand?


a lot of reasons.
1. wants to see how player B plays
2. maybe he wants to put player B on tilt

A lot of times, players who are not in the hand request to see the losing hand. It's bad manner but it's legal and people do it all the time.
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:32 am to
In no way is A entitled to see B's hand if it was mucked since B was the caller. Had B bet, A called and B mucks upon seeing A's cards, then B would be required to show since A essentially "paid" to see what B was holding.

I wouldn't be playing at that poker room any more if that is how the dealers are trained.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:35 am to
Any player who was dealt into that hand has a right to request seeing those hands because there was a bet and a call. This is a rule to avoid possible cheating. It is bad poker etiquette to make that request unless you actually suspect collusion.

As for who gets the pot it depends on if the dealer had touched the folded hand to the muck pile. If not cards speak and player B wins the pot. This is the danger of requesting to see a folded hand.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:37 am to
quote:

lot of reasons.
1. wants to see how player B plays
2. maybe he wants to put player B on tilt



Duhhh., I knew why...point being more to the issue of it isn't allowed. And, the story didn't end here...op is player B
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:39 am to
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Any player who was dealt into that hand has a right to request seeing those hands because there was a bet and a call. T


Correct since the hand went to showdown.

Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:40 am to
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Duhhh., I knew why


Right...nice recovery.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:42 am to
Player B since B called and did not fold.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:


As for who gets the pot it depends on if the dealer had touched the folded hand to the muck pile.


Correct unless the winning player request to see the hand. Then the hand is live regardless if the dealer taps them to the muck. It’s a weird rule but go ask any Poker mananger in America and they’ll tell you the same.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:48 am to
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PeteRose


You're a tool.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 9:49 am
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

PeteRose


Are/were you Player B?
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8242 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:50 am to
quote:

It’s a weird rule


It is. It's uncommon enough that I wouldn't trust every card room getting it right. I have been in a lot of rooms that seem to just make up their own weird rules. Indian casinos are the worst about this. If the floor gets called at an Indian casino there's no telling what's going to happen. It comes down to how knowledgeable the particular floor guy is.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:52 am to
PeteRose. Name checks out in a gambling thread. No offense.

Doesn’t sound right Player B can’t even recognize his hand on a NL table. Was he drunk?

Sounds like the two brothers and a stranger hustle. With the stranger being the casino. They both asked for casino money ?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:56 am to
I don't know the rules but it seems like someone folding should not be forced to reveal his hand because that reveals info about how he plays.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8242 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Doesn’t sound right Player B can’t even recognize his hand on a NL table. Was he drunk? 


Hang out in a card room for a couple days and you will see this multiple times. People get distracted. Usually happens when someone is chasing a flush and they hit a straight and don't see it because they were so focused on a flush.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Right...nice recovery.


No kid...point being, he didn't ask the player, it's plainly stated the DEALER showed the cards...so he either ASKED THE DEALER and B concerned, or it didn't happen
If B consented, this wouldn't be a story, would it?
What Don't you get? According to OP (lying), B didn't consent

My theory is B consented or didn't muck at all, and then was embarrassed to find he was to stupid yo know he had a winner
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:57 am to
I bet Player A will never ask to see mucked cards again. Dummy.

Take the win and move on.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:58 am to
and you are a moron..player b folded..cards are dead at that point. doesnt matter if he had the stone cold nuts, player a wins..its not rocket surgery.
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Actually, Player B was awarded the pot


exactly.. now everyone continue to downvote my previous post. idiots
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8242 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:00 am to
quote:

I don't know the rules but it seems like someone folding should not be forced to reveal his hand because that reveals info about how he plays.





There was a bet and a call. The other player put his money in so he has a right to see them. It will bite you in the arse though if his hand is better than yours.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8242 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:01 am to
quote:

and you are a moron..player b folded..cards are dead at that point. doesnt matter if he had the stone cold nuts, player a wins..its not rocket surgery


Wrong.
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