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re: How would you make this poker ruling?

Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by YNWA
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:34 pm to
Sounds like this happened in someone's basement on a Saturday night. Not at a casino.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Why does player B have to show his hand if he doesn't want to?


Because player A put the same amount of money into the pot as player B. If it goes all the way to the showdown he has a right to see it. It's dumb to request this though when they are pushing you the pot.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:43 pm to
Cards have to hit the muck most places

That's sweet vengeance for a super pretty move (asking to flip the hand). Once you release, it's over. Show some respect
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:44 pm to
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Player B folded.

No he didn't. Player B mucked his cards but the bet was called.
Either way player A should have been awarded the pot. Hopefully they got management involved and the dealer got run off.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:45 pm to
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Any player who was dealt into that hand has a right to request seeing those hands because there was a bet and a call. This is a rule to avoid possible cheating. It is bad poker etiquette to make that request unless you actually suspect collusion.

As for who gets the pot it depends on if the dealer had touched the folded hand to the muck pile. If not cards speak and player B wins the pot. This is the danger of requesting to see a folded hand.

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Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:55 pm to
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No he didn't. Player B mucked his cards but the bet was called. 
Either way player A should have been awarded the pot. Hopefully they got management involved and the dealer got run off.


Once again, this is wrong. Once player B says call his cards are a loaded weapon until they reach the muck. Player A stopped them from reaching the muck by requesting to see them.

Action is binding. His action was call. It is entirely binding until those cards are lost in the muck.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:14 pm to
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you're acting like a condescending prick.


It's not an act little girl
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:14 pm to
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Player B gets the pot. The hand isn't killed if A asks to see the hand, but it would have been killed if any other player had asked.

It is why you never see a regular asking to see player B's hand in that situation


100% spot on.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 4:55 pm
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:20 pm to
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then you're a dumbass for even wanting to see.


Why? Sometimes seeing how someone plays a hand is worth more than the actual pot
Posted by dkreller
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Player B mucked his hand. The hand is over. The dealer shouldn’t and can’t show a mucked hand. Player A wins, dealer gets fired.

This
Posted by tokenBoiler
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:25 pm to
Cards talk.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19601 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:51 pm to
Player A wins that pot. Dealer was correct. If you fold, you fold. No one else's fault.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:52 pm to
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Player A wins that pot. Dealer was correct. If you fold, you fold. No one else's fault.


Nope.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19601 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:29 pm to
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The dealer shouldn’t and can’t show a mucked hand. Player A wins, dealer gets fired.


Some casinos require you to show your hand at showdown. I believe most pro tournaments do it that way as well (to prevent chip dumping).
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:30 pm to
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The hand is over. The dealer shouldn’t and can’t show a mucked hand.

Player A wins, dealer gets fired.


This is objective and inarguable. Why is this thread longer than this response?
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:36 pm to
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This is objective and inarguable.


This is the OT, NOTHING is inarguable.

The majority here feel like B wins. Sorry, you're incorrect.

FWIW, I enjoyed your comments in the ADHD/Ritalin thread the other day.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8242 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:45 pm to
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This is objective and inarguable. Why is this thread longer than this response?


Because there are rules Donny. Some here don't seem to understand them. Now mark it zero.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:22 pm to
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FWIW, I enjoyed your comments in the ADHD/Ritalin thread the other day.


Look, I'm not that into dudes. But I appreciate the compliment. I'd probably let you do stuff to me, if you wanted, but don't plan on me reciprocating or anything.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:25 pm to
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Either way player A should have been awarded the pot. Hopefully they got management involved and the dealer got run off.
no. That’s not how this works
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36747 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:26 pm to
Player B is a fricking moron and shouldn’t be allowed to keep his money



Sorry bout your luck OP
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