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re: How will young people ever get ahead?

Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31530 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:46 am to
The small starter home my parent bought in the early 90’s was less than a decade old and cost about $80k in today’s dollars.

That doesn’t exist anymore. In fact, last I looked, that cheaply built little house was worth about $115k now, three decades later.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2380 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:47 am to
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and new vehicles easily averaging over $50,000,


This just isn't anything that should affect you getting ahead. Even if thus is true, you don't have to buy the 50k vehicle. I'm nearing 40, have a household income in the 90+ percentile and have yet to buy a vehicle that expensive. And we don't drive beaters. Every person making 70k a year thinks that you need a Tahoe or an F150 loaded out with features. It's people's own stupidity that keeps them from getting ahead.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10503 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:47 am to
Locked in 3% interest during 2020 on a 2100 sqft house. Replaced counter tops, put in a wine fridge, replaced roof, oven, microwave, stove, and dishwasher. Re-did the back patio, had some folks paint. Only thing left is to replace the air conditioner, which just had it serviced, said it should last until next summer at the least.

These people buying 300k homes on 7% interest that are 1800 sqft are insane
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179377 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:47 am to
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Nobody is building starter homes anymore because land is too expensive.




No. Desirable land is expensive.

There is still land. It just may not be in the area all of your friends are in.

Also, gentrification needs to happen more. There are tons of nice old houses but again no one wants to fix them up.

Here in Lake Charles, there are parts of an old neighborhood called Oak Park that have some huge nice older houses. If you get too far near 12th St in Oak Park it is ghetto but the parts by Prien Lake Rd are still OK crime-wise and has so many huge nice houses for great deals. Instead, the younger people are opting for new houses they can barely afford with small lots in Mroganfield or something.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179377 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:49 am to
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Yeah back when starter homes existed.



They still do. They just aren't in "hot" areas.

I have been in RE for 22 years now. This is what I see.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2629 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:49 am to
Can't they just wave their little Harry Potter wands and say "expexcto plutonion" or whatever?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129207 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:49 am to
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There are tons of nice old houses but again no one wants to fix them up.


Because its cheaper/easier to buy a new starter home than renovate an old house.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47670 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:49 am to
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A serious issue I see is that younger people buying houses is they all want a newer house right from the start. Not a lot of them are willing to buy a fixer-upper and put in some sweat equity


The old classic $100K starter home doesn't really exist anymore. The only places homes like that still exist are in places where you have to dodge gunfire walking to the mailbox.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33506 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:50 am to
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Driving cars for 10 years.


I’ve been doing this since the mid 90’s
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:51 am to
I've got 3 kids 20 - 26 and they are all homeowners, have $ in the bank, paid for vehicles and are doing much better than I was at that age.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52003 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:51 am to
They'll get ahead by not being pussies. I have 4 kids, plus a niece and nephew, all in their 30s and all getting ahead nicely.

Oh, and none of them are pussies.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11102 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:52 am to
Make more money?
Posted by CornbreadFed
Member since Apr 2023
193 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:53 am to
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The same way everyone did…by working their way up. My first job out of college was $30k back in 1996. A kid bagging groceries at Publix makes $15/hr now. Do the math. Don’t buy a new car. Buy used and reliable. Rent and live with roommates. You don’t need a house starting out. The issue is kids think they should live and have what their parents do right out of the gate. It doesn’t work that way. I’m not saying it’s easy…but it’s never been easy.


Okay Boomer
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
6982 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:53 am to
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Desirable land is expensive.


I sold my 5,300 sq ft 4 bedroom 5.5 bathroom mcmansion to live in a 2,400 sqft manufactured home on 20 acres.

Would do it again in a heartbeat
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53076 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:54 am to
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There are tons of nice old houses but again no one wants to fix them up.

I was in my mid 30s when we bought this house which was built in 1975. It had been partially updated by the previous owner so it wasn't a complete remodel.

We've just slowly done things that we wanted to it over 10 years. We'll probably sell it in a few and downsize once the kids are all gone.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179377 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:54 am to
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The small starter home my parent bought in the early 90’s was less than a decade old and cost about $80k in today’s dollars.

That doesn’t exist anymore. In fact, last I looked, that cheaply built little house was worth about $115k now, three decades later.





In the early 2000's I built a subdivision of starter homes. They were 1300-1400 living, vinyl siding, 1 car garage, and all qualified for USDA and FHA loans. I sold them for $105 per sq ft. Some of those houses have sold a few times over the years and some are for sale now. $130 to $140 per sq ft. seems to be the range now. Not too bad of an appreciation considering the times.


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108328 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:54 am to
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The same way everyone did…by working their way up.
The price of goods, and most importantly the price of houses (#1 wealth builder then made America what it is) has never been worse in terms of relation to average income

So no, it’s not “like everyone else”. They are fricked far more than everyone else
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
806 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:55 am to
NIL
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18710 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:56 am to
Too many young people are concerned with keeping up with the joneses on social media. That’s going to be a massive downfall for most of them.

I see kids at work driving BMWs and paying 2 grand a month for rent in the warehouse district. These are kids who work in entry level positions making 50k a year.

There’s nothing wrong with that lifestyle, but if layoffs come around they’ll have no money saved and will never be able to buy a home.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179377 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:56 am to
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Because its cheaper/easier to buy a new starter home than renovate an old house.



I will give you easier but it isn't cheaper. Sweat equity is a real thing.
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