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re: How rampant is cheating in college nowadays?

Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:43 am to
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:43 am to
If teachers grade your homework, what are you supposed to do?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:54 am to
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If teachers grade your homework, what are you supposed to do


What do you mean? If a teacher wants to grade something where they give you full access to any reference available to get the correct answer, then they have to understand you are going to have access to tutors, peers, etc.

I don't think it should be graded personally, because I was way too lazy to do it . I always worked out my schedule to set aside 3 or 4 days to learn the material in depth before a test. I'd do all homework plus some in that time to be prepped for the test. I made sure I could derive everything and truly understand it. I knew the stuff inside and out and usually did well on tests. So I learned it, who cares if I did your little waste of time take home activity in a timely manner.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:58 am to
I'm on your side. Nothing pisses me off more than weekly or even daily homework deadlines for a class that has 2 exams a semester. Let me use my time how I want to use it.

If I was a professor I would post all homework for the entire semester the first day of class. If you want to wait until finals week to do it all, fine. I'd be that guy knocking it out the 2nd week of class so I don't have to deal with it.

Especially with online homework. I mean the professor doesn't even have to grade it, so why do they care when it gets done
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:59 am to
I really dont think of it as cheating, its more about surviving if you are a STEM student hahaha.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:07 am to
I had one professor who would give the same tests every year.

BUT he would switch the answers around. A would become D, D would become B, and so on. Or question 5 would become question 10.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:12 am to
The best way to cheat is to learn all the stuff that's gonna be on the test and keep it in your brain, they never check your brain.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:20 am to
I don't consider these two cheating.
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HW and online quizzes are considered group work nowadays by students.

Note and previous exam swapping have hit new levels of accessibility


This is cheating.
quote:


Institutions are finding cases where students cheat using the Apple Watch and other wearable tech


The usage of adderall/vyvanse and the "extra" time you get for being diagnosed with ADD/ADHD is the biggest form of "cheating".
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43496 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:49 am to
Thats one thing that bit me in the arse so much. Why is someone allowed extra time on and still be able to receive the same degree I achieved??????? Subject for another topic.
Posted by GeauxMatt624
Bangor, Maine
Member since Feb 2016
566 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:28 am to
As a business major, most of my teachers used test banks provided by the text book company. You can buy them online and that was all I studied for 75% of my undergrad classes. Most professors consider that cheating but if they take a shortcut in making tests, I have no problem taking a shortcut in studying.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25318 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:37 am to
But you don't learn anything that way. I'm appalled by how people get though college without actually learning new skills. The reason you are there is not to get an A but to gain lifelong skills.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:37 am to
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Turnitin.com

Would find the Spanish version of the paper online and then translate it to English. Did that for the majority of my papers and never got caught
Posted by GeauxMatt624
Bangor, Maine
Member since Feb 2016
566 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:47 am to
But those lifelong skills aren't exclusive to learning in college. In today's world I would argue that you can learn just as much through free research on the web. You pay the $30,000+ tuition to get a piece of paper to find a job. I almost see it more of an aptitude test to show that you can get through all of the B.S. and accomplish a goal. 90% of the skills that I use in my job have been learned through on the job training.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 10:48 am
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:22 am to
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you can learn just as much through free research on the web. You pay the $30,000+ tuition to get a piece of paper

Will Hunting is that you?
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:24 am to
Really common. Anything online (a lot of classes now) leads to a shite ton of cheating.
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:32 am to
If you're not cheating these days then you're not trying.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26221 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:57 am to
It is difficult to cheat on an answer to a well-written essay question. But, the professor has to be willing to take the time to grade those questions.

I caught two students cheating (off each other), and, even with cheating, their test scores were still in the 50's.

If you write your tests properly, you can tell as you grade the tests who knows and understands the material.

ETA: It is also harder to cheat on a test that is designed to test whether you understand the material. When I taught human resources and labor relations classes, the emphasis was on understanding how h.r. and labor relations laws and policies work in real life.

It is much easier to cheat on tests that focus on how well you memorize the materials.






This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:03 pm to
There's a cheater in my business class. He sneaks glances at his phone during the test every time

It's pretty annoying. Though why not just study? I read the chapters and made a 100 yesterday
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:40 pm to
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business major
quote:

I have no problem taking a shortcut
Checks out.
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:42 pm to
I wouldn't date again until I got out of college, I'm too young to get tied down with some girl who I won't marry
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