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Posted on 11/16/21 at 6:56 am to STEVED00
All that matters is the jab.
Get it or you are evil and should be ostracized.
Facts and logic have no place in the mind of the shot Nazis.
Banana Hammock is a prime example of someone that only cares about the false narrative being pushed by the Covidians.
Get it or you are evil and should be ostracized.
Facts and logic have no place in the mind of the shot Nazis.
Banana Hammock is a prime example of someone that only cares about the false narrative being pushed by the Covidians.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:05 am to jimmy the leg
Herein lies the problem. The vaccine isn’t evil. It is a great tool but it is also silly to think it is the end all be all as it pertains to ending Covid.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:15 am to Chrome
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It's not a vaccine, it's a worldwide placebo.
You wouldn't want the government to just admit that they have no idea how to stop a bioweapon*, would you? Nah, let's just poison the populace instead.
* Assuming the idiots of the world aren't just freaking out about the common cold, which has been around for thousands, if not millions, of years.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:29 am to STEVED00
Well, this thread should be full of great information.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:31 am to BluegrassBelle
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Purely anecdotal
i think it’s safe to point out there have been a lot of anecdotal stories that have been tossed around by both sides of the vaccination argument. I fail to see your point
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:32 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
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Well, this thread should be full of great information.
Two fully vaccinated teams just had major “outbreaks”. One (Cal) was a result of testing people that weren’t required to be tested. The question is if we tested vaccinated people under the same conditions as unvaccinated would the breakthrough cases be more prevalent?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:35 am to Klark Kent
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i think it’s safe to point out there have been a lot of anecdotal stories that have been tossed around by both sides of the vaccination argument. I fail to see your point
The Cal situation is NOT anecdotal. They are NOT following the same protocol as everyone else and testing a lot more people then required. The question is how prevalent would breakthrough cases be if other CFB teams did the same thing that Cal did?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:35 am to STEVED00
quote:that’s more in line with reality
Herein lies the problem. The vaccine isn’t a vaccine. It is moderately temporarily effective but it is also silly to think it has a Chinaman’s chance in hell of ending Covid and may in fact end up killing way more than it saves.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:37 am to STEVED00
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The vaccine isn’t a vaccine.
It was sold as something to prevent infection, and failed miserably.
Reaching 90% vax rate changes nothing.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:39 am to STEVED00
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The question is if we tested vaccinated people under the same conditions as unvaccinated would the breakthrough cases be more prevalent?
It’s only natural to assume as much. In that regard, COVID deniers should be lobbying for as much testing as possible, as it only bolsters their position.
Either way, it’s pretty cut and dry that:
1. Covid is bad.
2. Vaccines help.
The prevalence of hyper focus is more concerning. People fail to grasp the big picture.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:40 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
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2. Vaccines help.
Only the person vaccinated.
Which makes it worthless for containing the virus.
Do you remember how the vaccine was sold to the public?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:43 am to STEVED00
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The vaccine isn’t evil. It is a great tool but it is also silly to think it is the end all be all as it pertains to ending Covid.
Most don’t claim it is the end all be all. But, if people refuse to wear masks and/or temporary inconveniences in their personal lives, wouldn’t you agree vaccines are the best and most logical tool?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:43 am to Cowboyfan89
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After saying that everytime, it loses meaning.
I agree, but still, the articles say hospitals are filling up again.
The vaccine is a band aid and should not be mandated to do a job. The only tried and true way to stop a spread is social distance (this happened pre/covid with schools shutting down for flu out break), and herd immunity (1918 Spanish flu that lasted 4 years before herd immunity happened).
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:45 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
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It’s only natural to assume as much. In that regard, COVID deniers should be lobbying for as much testing as possible, as it only bolsters their position.
Why do people always jump to extremes? I am not denying Covid. Vaccines have definitely helped. Now we also have effective treatments (antibody infusions and new Pfizer pill) that can quickly deal with Covid before it becomes an issue. Mandating now (or after the holidays which proves how arbitrary this is) is just stupid.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Only the person vaccinated.
Which makes it worthless for containing the virus.
Then, the problem, to me, isn’t the vaccine, it’s people.
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Do you remember how the vaccine was sold to the public?
Yes. As one which is not 100% effective. All we can do is respond with the best information available at any given time. To assume that information won’t change over time and that strategic approach won’t need revision feels a bit simpleminded.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:47 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
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Most don’t claim it is the end all be all.
Current Admin does.
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But, if people refuse to wear masks and/or temporary inconveniences in their personal lives, wouldn’t you agree vaccines are the best and most logical tool?
Here we go.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:47 am to STEVED00
Breakthrough cases are incredibly common. The 4-6 month efficacy of the vaccines are under 50%. Vermont, which is 90+% vaccinated is dealing with its highest case and death spikes since the pandemic started.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:48 am to BluegrassBelle
Most studies reveal the vaccine to be extremely effective against serious cases leading to hospitalizations/deaths.
However, vaccinated people are only 3 to 4 times less likely to contract the virus at all than are unvaccinated.
However, vaccinated people are only 3 to 4 times less likely to contract the virus at all than are unvaccinated.
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