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re: How much is Pine Timber worth?

Posted on 11/19/18 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3260 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 3:46 pm to
Not much. Cut it ASAP


LINK
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38483 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 4:05 pm to
I can't imagine it's worth as much now with all the pine that's flooding the market after hurricane Michael.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6770 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 4:20 pm to
Depends if it's sold as pole pine, lumber or pulp wood
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 4:21 pm to
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Interesting article.


You're right, this is interesting. My family has a former cotton/soybean farm in northeast MS that was turned into a pine tree farm around 1998 or so. I don't know how many more years the trees have before they'll need to be harvested, but it's coming. Perhaps prices will increase by then.

Complicating matters, of course, is that three siblings now own the farm in a trust. Getting three people to agree on what to do can be a challenge sometimes.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 4:22 pm to
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Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8623 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 5:52 pm to
Cut it now or lose it later?

Check and find out if pine bark beetles are a problem anywhere near that acreage. How fast they are advancing towards that acreage. Etc.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 5:56 pm to
Seems like the time to get into timber eh?
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8629 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:13 pm to
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Around tree fiddy.




Stupidity expected

Now to answer: Bickham C with Peters Forest in Baton Rouge could answer that question.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 6:15 pm
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:15 pm to
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$1,500ish per acre


This is the correct answer for set out loblolly, roughly. Proximity to a mill has a lot to do with it.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

I have no idea, but the occupation of “cruising timber” always sounded cool.
It is, but it's much more fun for hardwoods
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15072 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:36 pm to
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The timber market is shite right now


I'm not in the business, but that's what I've heard. People in MS. that had large tracts of land, cut their timber and replanted for future harvests and income are not seeing the numbers they expected due to the glut of such properties and the abundance of trees to be harvested.

Seems a lot of folks devoted a lot of land and resources and are not seeing it become very profitable.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:38 pm to
Call Rob Frazier in Amite La
You need a forester to know for sure and not get raked by the lumber company
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:59 pm to
Here's a link for the LA timber market values by quarter LINK

Pine pulpwood is down 19%. People need to make sure they get the best seedlings, planted properly, and managed properly. If you're lucky, you'll end up with a bunch of poles at the final cut. Garbage management = garbage product.

The good thing about trees is that you can always wait for the market to get better
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:06 pm to
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trees is that you can always wait for the market to get better



Actually one of the bad thing about pine trees. If you are within 200miles of the coast and subsequent hurricanes then your beautiful 30year poles can get snapped like toothpicks. Also of course the beetles to deal with. Bienville Nat Forest in Ms has been dismantled by beetles over the last 2 years. Pine trees are definitely not something you can just have sitting around feeling comfortable about.
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
1916 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:14 pm to
Until Michael shows up and snaps 30 year old trees
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:22 pm to
There are things that kill all trees
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90554 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:29 pm to
Found out more info. The land was planted in pine a little over 25 years ago by his mom and pretty well kept.

It is located near Bruce, Ms which has a large sawmill.

His gf uncle owns a logging outfit and is supposed to let us know if he can do it
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10998 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:37 pm to
You will find many timber specialists here. It literally doesn’t matter what market, field, or whatever. The OT has the pros bro. But bro, I hunt on a timber lease in St Francisville and I overheard one of my daddys friends say how much the pine timber was worth. NOW I’M A frickING PRO!!!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90554 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:38 pm to
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Seems a lot of folks devoted a lot of land and resources and are not seeing it become very profitable.


Seems that way but in our unique case there is nothing invested in it. His mom died and he was given the land. Other than a small house used as a rental property his uncle lives in, the 30 remaining acres are useless. So even at low prices it is all profit. 1500 an acre is 45k which would pay off completely out company car and company credit card, along with roughly 10k for equipment/computer upgrades that we need.

Sounds worth doing imo
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

His gf uncle owns a logging outfit and is supposed to let us know if he can do it



This should work out real good for yall.

I know the boyfriends of my uncles nieces are all high priority.
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