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re: How much hp does it take to roast the tires?

Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20013 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

Seems to hit redline quickly


If you ain't first, you're last, right?
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:05 pm to
Your tires are sticky, and they don't have any traction control. I'm
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
5941 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:09 pm to
My 16 Tahoe has 355hp...too heavy :(
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 11:15 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15745 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:15 pm to
40hp will do it in an old school stock VW Beetle

Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12450 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:52 pm to
150hp with a line lock.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:59 pm to
i thought you were a car guy?

jeez
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:33 am to
Torque bro.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:59 am to
Are you saying you don't know how to squeal out in a RWD stick shift?

Did your parents have any kids that lived?
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:40 am to
quote:

My 16 Tahoe has 355hp...too heavy :(


Nah, it has nothing to do with the weight. Actually the weight would help it stay in place and burn out.

It's the torque management. TM is part of the programming in the PCM (powertrain control module) that reduces engine torque when starting from a stop and when the transmission changes gears. The PCM calculates the "Delivered Engine Torque" based on numerous inputs. The PCM then retards ignition timing to reduce engine torque by a predetermined percentage based on the engine's torque output. Its purpose it to increase the longevity of the transmission and drive-train.

GMs and Dodges (Ram now) are famous for heavy-handed torque management. If your Tahoe didn't have TM, say if you got a custom programmer and took it out, it would roast the tires if you wanted it to.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40854 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:07 am to
Oil up them rear tires.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7517 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:12 am to
Bleach on the tires and make em smoke
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:20 am to
quote:

RWD of course.


Has less to do with horsepower and more to do with gearing, traction, and tires.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138513 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:23 am to
I prefer my tires braised
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:27 am to
I worked on it for a while yesterday...

Even got it all back together.

I need to replace the washer motor now...

But the episode of Jays garage 'wolf in sheeps clothing' had a Volvo with a crate engine in it...got me thinking.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UCSeyBGQX-U
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 7:29 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47133 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:37 am to
quote:

How much hp does it take to roast the tires?
RWD of course


Way too many variables to answer this question such as surface area of the tires in contact with the road, material composition of the rubber, type of road surface, etc.

It all boils down to knowing coefficient of frictions at the point of contact, surface area of the contact, torque applied to the wheel, and the diameter of the wheel.

All that being said ... about tree fiddy.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47133 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Nah, it has nothing to do with the weight.


Incorrect, more weight, more force required.

quote:

Actually the weight would help it stay in place and burn out.


Why would that make a difference unless you were on a soft surface where you might dig down (like a dirt surface). I've had way more trouble keeping traction on the lighter rear end of a small pickup than I ever did on a full sized one with more HP and torque.

quote:

It's the torque management. TM is part of the programming in the PCM (powertrain control module) that reduces engine torque when starting from a stop and when the transmission changes gears. The PCM calculates the "Delivered Engine Torque" based on numerous inputs.


This would indeed be the most likely limiting factor for most modern vehicles on dry pavement.


Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5891 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:33 am to
tires people.. the tires.

you can have 200 hp if you have slick tires or roll in water you gonna smoke them down.

you can have 450 hp and some drag tires and you can floor it on dry sticky pavement and you wont spin.

Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 9:00 am to
you have a 550 right? Press and hold the TRC button until it blinks and comes completely off. Then enjoy. I did it once with mine and drifted in a circle. Pretty sweet but only did it one time because of tires
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7432 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 9:01 am to
quote:

my 01 ranger 4x4 with a 200hp v6.



you've had a lot of Rangers, what are you, a pool guy?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 9:05 am to
bald tires on smooth asphalt with a RWD manual should be easy AF to burn out...right?

Unless the vehicle weighs a shite load.
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