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re: How? Just how do so many people afford 2+ mil secondary homes in florida?

Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:19 am to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9690 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:19 am to
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Sshhhh, the OT thinks if you’re successful you must be maxed out in credit. Don’t burst their envy bubble


You're right. The OT is such a weird place.

My brother, who is certified OT baller status as a patent lawyer from UVA Law, and I were having a conversation the other day. And it seems that most of the medium-high earners are the ones with the largest debt load and a relatively low amount of assets and actual wealth. Say 250k-550k per year.

They want to live like millionaires but have to be leveraged to the gills in order to do it.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20457 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:21 am to
I don’t think you realize how much wealth is floating around this country.
Posted by hankiba
Member since Feb 2017
325 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:23 am to
Same thing I thought touring Coronado Island in San Diego. Where do these folks work?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9690 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:31 am to
I'm the poorest one in my immediate family and I'm doing very well financially. The rest were at the top of their field in lucrative careers. I did it with hard work and a frick ton of luck. While in the military, I started 2 small businesses that wdid very well. I made a lot of money when I sold them. I also dabbled heavily in real estate. Bought several properties close to the beach in California in 2009. Made bank on rents and have sold them.

My wife's uncle makes 7 figures a year owning a construction business and works maybe 90 days a year. He owns houses in 4 states and a beach house in Belize. Now my brother works his arse off as a lawyer and has too much money and no time. Kind of retarded imo.
This post was edited on 7/2/23 at 6:33 am
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17367 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:40 am to
Port Royal down here in Naples is ridiculous. We are talking multiple acre estates, on the gulf. Celebrity owners, corporation CEO's, etc. But, as the OP said, there are so many not "ultra" wealthy people here, who have their luxury cars shipped down every 6 months, and live in $1M+ homes for a few months. What did these people do to amass this kind of money? There are a ton of them here.
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2073 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:50 am to
Stock options
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18562 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:06 am to
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frick you and your bullshite math


$250k is .00025 of $1,000,000,000.

$12.50 is .00025 of $50,000.

I’m no accountant, but I think I’m right.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1436 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:20 am to
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I don’t think you realize how much wealth is floating around this country.



If you work in this field. Which I think you do from your posting. Are most of these people making it from starting a company?
This post was edited on 7/2/23 at 7:21 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20085 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:36 am to
I’ve asked the same question. Played a golf course in destin recently, not even on the beach, and the neighborhood was full of 3-5,000 SF. Second homes.

And much of the entire state is the same way.
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
898 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:57 am to
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70% of the home purchases in Alys Beach are cash.


A lot of the upper range cash purchases are a line of credit from a bank. They usually do not have that amount of cash in their account. It’s just borrowing against other assets.

So they do have a note, but it’s an all interest payment, no principal. And they probably write off the interest payments.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10340 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:57 am to
Many people claim with 2nd homes claim Florida as their primary residence. Florida doesn’t tax income, social security, pensions, capital gains, IRA/401 (k) withdrawals. It’s a no brainer for the uberwealthy. You’d be surprised how many professional athletes with no ties to Florida live here in the off-season.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8317 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:44 am to
Many bought back when things weren’t incredibly expensive. My wife’s family owned a condo back in one of the original Phoenix buildings. They bought for like 100k. Sold it for not much profit. If they still had it today, could sell for 800-900k
Posted by Levin13
Houston
Member since May 2021
46 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:12 am to
It isn’t as much oil money is Alys as I would have thought. Attorneys, real estate, ex-athletes… Sean Peyton just bought a house, an old Atlanta pitcher just sold his place.

Surprisingly, there are some internet “influencers” / snake oil sales people with houses too. Excited for that bubble to pop. A few even have their houses in non for profits.
Posted by rph1
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
141 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:33 am to
These houses are a great investment with a bonus of being able to use it. Some years there are 20% plus appreciation. Of course there are also years of 20% depreciation. Property in Destin over the last 10 years is up about 125%. If you want to rent that’s a bonus. Then you depreciate the property over 31 years for a $300k tax deduction. In the upper tax brackets you just saved $120k in taxes. While the property appreciates you are not paying any taxes but instead getting the depreciation deduction. Then you sell it to buy a bigger property and do a 1031 tax exchange again never paying the tax man. See how his beats the rigged stock market and your 401K?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58513 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:38 am to
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but it’s an all interest payment, no principal


How many do you assume are doing it this way?
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8870 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:55 am to
I would say very few if any are using a LOC to buy a 6 million dollar home where do people come up with this shite.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76821 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:58 am to
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Worked for a good company, made decent money.

Ok this is me
quote:

He lived like a pauper for first 10-15 years

Dammit I’m out
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76821 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 11:04 am to
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$250k is .00025 of $1,000,000,000. $12.50 is .00025 of $50,000. I’m no accountant, but I think I’m right.


The only difference is, one is earning $50k per year. That’s not net worth. The $1B is net worth, not necessarily annual income.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6651 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 11:17 am to
Maybe the owners earned real degrees for which they could earn real money with, as opposed to Art History, Gender Studies, Ethnic Studies, etc.
Posted by Fletch1985
Member since Jun 2020
289 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 11:57 am to
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