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re: How? Just how do so many people afford 2+ mil secondary homes in florida?

Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2224 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:22 pm to
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I’m talking about 5-10mil homes in florida on the beach that are mostly vacation homes


Obviously it is rich people, and many coming from NY/NJ.
Forget that- living in Miami for so long now I wonder how regular folks are casually buying $700-900K homes. They have regular jobs and paying that price tag for a standard home is just insane.
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4407 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:23 pm to
Well, when you're in the c suite of a multi billion dollar Fortune 100 company that runs the healthcare industry, shits easy. It's like buying a new bike or something miniscule. I currently see this now.

I highly doubt an everyday baw is doing this without being in serious debt.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114217 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:24 pm to
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I feel like that scene in wolf of Wall Street where Donnie walks up to Jordan B in the coffee shop. “I’ll quit my job right now and come work for you if you show me a pay stub”




Donnie approaches Jordan Youtube.com

The part when Jordan ask about his wife being his cousin and Donnie tells him if they have a kid that isn't right they will drop it off somewhere in the woods is my favorite part..
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2866 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Even if I could afford it not sure I would want the pain with dealing with hurricanes and renting it out of occasionally. I’d rather have a 1000 acres with a simple house on it.


I mean personally I probably would prefer your scenario as well, but take a look at how the value of those beach communities has changed over the past 20+ years. The beach house is typically a great long term investment.

Source - family built a pretty normal house in Carrillon Beach in 2000. Sold in 2019 for 10x the basis.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56018 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:25 pm to
there are a lot of successful salesmen/business owners/doctors/lawyers in this country.

also, as mentioned, they were much more affordable when they were built.

another thing is there are about 100 million more people in this country than there was in 1980. i think a lot people don't realize this when talking about real estate prices and whatnot.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35709 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:25 pm to
Naples real estate is insae and people are buying it.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1859 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:26 pm to
In Florida and Cali there are tons of non-resident Aliens that buy those homes

Secondarily inherited dollars, or just big time rich...I personally know 2 guts with at least 100mm
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:27 pm to
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If you want to get there on your own, fact is as long as you work for someone, you have virtually no chance. I won’t say no chance, as you could become a high level executive at a big company, but chances are if you aren’t self employed you will never have the kind of money to touch that realm of life.



realized this. trying to start my own business but the barrier of entry $$$ is keeping me working for the man for now. And the barrier of entry is purely $$$ for various licenses and such. I'm in the spend money to make money area now.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:28 pm to
There is also a much greater wealth gap these days than previously. The middle class has really changed a lot in the past 40 years.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18564 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Well, when you're in the c suite of a multi billion dollar Fortune 100 company that runs the healthcare industry, shits easy. It's like buying a new bike or something miniscule.


I saw a video that said a billionaire spending $250k on a submarine expedition is the equivalent of someone who makes $50k/year buying a $12 lunch.
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204295 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:31 pm to
Have you ever go down the diversion canal???? You will see where all the money in south Louisiana is at.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12436 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:31 pm to
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have a good paying job


That’s your problem. Those people either have generational money or were on the front end of a successful startup, or in an industry with f*** you money. Those type of people aren’t worried about good benefits and a 401k.
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
502 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:52 pm to
I have a close group of 5 friends from college. 4 of us are about the same level of financial success/security. Then there’s one who married a guy who ended up being an oil/gas trader. Dude scored a bonus a few years ago that was upwards of $30 million. For one year. They now have 3 vacation homes in different places.

I like my job and I make decent money and my husband does well, but fuuuuuuuccckkkk. $30M in one year just isn’t in the cards for me. My friend got lucky. But if you talk to her on the wrong day, sometimes she would give it all up for a more attentive husband.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
120026 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:52 pm to
They either are social influencers for post videos on youtube. Those things are gold mines
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23837 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:55 pm to
Family wealth is some of it. I worked with a girl whose grandma owns like 5 houses in 30A. She literally would catch flights with a rich neighbor in Buckhead on his jet. Her grandad bought the kits in the 50s
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12667 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 4:18 pm to
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I quit paying my student loans. Now I can afford it

Just vote for Bernie Sanders and everything will be free, I guess China will pay for it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40224 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 4:38 pm to
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Just how do so many people afford 2+ mil secondary homes in florida?

Mine’s not in Florida, but I got it by starting a business with some partners, running it for a few decades and selling it.

I’ll make this point about wealth, though: If you are able to accumulate $700,000 in wealth that is neither in your 401k, nor your primary residence it makes sense to me to convert it to renewing short term bonds, or something like that, then wait for the market to tank, as it does every 15 years or so.

When that happens, go buy your $2 million place in Florida. Put down $400k and use the other $300k to help pay the mortgage and fees for five years. By that time, the market will have recovered, you can sell at a profit, and you will have enjoyed the hell out of your place for five years. You’ll probably be tired of it by then anyway.

The point is that with a little hustle you can leverage your wealth into something that enhances your life instead of leaving it in the stock market.
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1437 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 4:44 pm to
So where do y’all think the next big place to appreciate and become popular is?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14523 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 4:46 pm to
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Factor in investments he’s made, he’s probably sitting at a net worth of $20 million+. If not more.


Just think about it if you had a 401k that started 20 to 30 years ago. You would have etf's / stocks that have shot up 1000% percent or more. Think microsoft/apple/nvda at 5.00 a share. You own 1000 shares of each . They are now 1000 @share after splits. Yeah I'm talking i'm rich money. Unfortunetly for me i missed investing at that time .
Posted by Richard Grayson
Bestbank
Member since Sep 2022
2149 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 4:48 pm to
#capitalism
#upperclass
#familymoney
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