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re: How is the OT Going to Vote on THRIVE?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:39 am to Shepherd
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:39 am to Shepherd
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People saying they don’t use the services from the incorporated part of the city are full of crap. Go eat there? Drive thru it? LSU game? Take a crap there? Been involved in a fender bender there? Wife go shopping there?
So the frick what.
In what way does St. George get to use BR tax money for St. George? Do BR people not go to St. George? Does central get to use BR tax money? Baker? Zachary?
It’s not St. George, central, Zachary, or baker residents problem that BR can’t afford essential services for their residents. The lump sum money they are taking from the library came from everyone in the parish, and it will just be used on the city of BR. That’s bullshite and the entire reason st George exists.
I would be more than happy to vote yes on the annual money they are taking to use on drainage and street projects for the parish, or hell even for projects just in the city of BR. Taking money to put in the general fund and then you tell us it’s for essential services, frick THAT.
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:48 am to tha real thang
No.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:54 am to mdboss
Whatever your personal opinion is of Thrive, it is endorsed by all 12 metro council members, the BR Police Union, BR Firefighters Union, EBR Republican Party, EBR Democratic Party as well as mayors of Zachary, Central and St George and the EBR District Attorney’s office. Name me one other fricking thing all of these entities agree on? Thrive is far from perfect but it’s necessary at this moment.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:19 am to Shepherd
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People saying they don’t use the services from the incorporated part of the city are full of crap. Go eat there? Drive thru it? LSU game? Take a crap there? Been involved in a fender bender there? Wife go shopping there?
I don’t live there and I try not to go there.
By your logic, every car/truck that passes through BR city needs to pay taxes.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:20 am to In The Know
Of course it’s supported by all those people. They all get a piece of stolen property.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:23 am to In The Know
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Thrive is far from perfect but it’s necessary at this moment.
Why is the $52M from the library and the $6M from Mosquito necessary to residents outside of Baton Rouge?
Are they going to find another $58M to steal from somewhere in 2 years so they don't have to raise the taxes in BR?
There's obviously a shortfall in their revenue with St. George leaving that they were taking from them and not giving back. It's inevitable that the taxes in BR have to go up. Yeah that sucks if you live in the city.
Taking $58M from parish funded entities and using it for essential services for BR isn't necessary. It's simply an avenue they are taking so they don't have to raise taxes.
They tried to scare us in St. George saying our taxes would be higher b/c we'd have to pay for essential services if we voted to incorporate. We all knew what really was going to happen. Our taxes here in St. George will stay the same, while the taxes in BR will have to go up.
I get why someone in BR would vote yes for this. I would if i lived in BR. But I don't, and there's no reason anyone who lives in St. George, Zachary, Central, or Baker should vote to give money back to BR so they can fund essential services and not raise taxes on their own residents. They've been leeching off of residents from outside the city for decades. We voted to stop this when we voted for St. George.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:24 am to TeddyPadillac
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We all knew what really was going to happen. Our taxes here in St. George will stay the same, while the taxes in BR will have to go up.
You should probably start providing your own essential services before you crow on that particular point
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:40 am to TeddyPadillac
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Why is the $52M from the library and the $6M from Mosquito necessary to residents outside of Baton Rouge?
DPW. A big chunk of that money is paying for parish wide road projects and drainage.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:43 am to Joshjrn
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You should probably start providing your own essential services before you crow on that particular point
Explain what you think this means.
Do you think the city of St. George will have to find a new company to provide water to my house?
Do you think they will need to find a new fire department b/c the can't use the ones that are already established in the city?
Or do you think maybe they'll just be the ones paying the same exact service companies we were already using instead of BR paying it?
Why do you think the city of BR needs $58M for the "general fund", when they've already come out and said they lost $50M in revenue from St. George?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:52 am to Joshjrn
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You should probably start providing your own essential services before you crow on that particular point
I believe most of that started on Nov 1. The remaining are parish wide essential services we pay the parish for, and always have paid the parish for. Or, were we paying into the City of BR slush fund and nobody knew until now.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:02 am to tha real thang
COA is corrupt as hell. It should be abolished.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:04 am to td1
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I believe most of that started on Nov 1. The remaining are parish wide essential services we pay the parish for, and always have paid the parish for. Or, were we paying into the City of BR slush fund and nobody knew until now.
Last I heard, St. George was still asking for Baton Rouge's indulgence in providing services, but I'm glad that's come to an end. Now, in 6-12 months, we can start to see how things will shake out in reality instead of silly histrionics from both sides. I'm genuinely curious.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:05 am to GreenRockTiger
quote:The Main Library on Goodwood Blvd was razed to the ground and rebuilt into a crystal palace a few years ago.
the Library Board tearing down perfectly good library buildings just so they can build a monument to themselves
when did this happen?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:10 am to TeddyPadillac
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They've been leeching off of residents from outside the city for decades. We voted to stop this when we voted for St. George.
That is true.
But remember that SG is still part of the parish and we are obligated to fund a storm water plan, the DA, the Parish Prison, and the Sheriff. We are also receiving garbage service, trash pick up, and sewer service and maintenance of parish roads.
We need to pay our share for those services as well as the services we receive from our new city.
This plan is a compromise plan. It makes use of our tax dollars that we all paid and was not vital to the Library and to MARC and allows us to move the money into the parish general fund for parish services.
It also provided the parish fund a continuing revenue stream so parish obligations can be maintained on a yearly basis.
Could there be a better mouse trap? You and I could probably come up with one, but could we sell that parish wide? I doubt it.
In this plan we have to rely on our representatives on the parish-council to be good stewards of our tax dollars. We have to make sure that they spend it on services we need.
Right now we are relying on library board members and the like who do as great job, but they can’t spend all they have now so they build libraries we don’t need or let the money sit for a rainy day.
There are better used for these tax dollars. Public safety is job one. Use the surplus funds to fight crime, for roads, and to stop flooding. Use the future tax receipts the same way.
Give BREC a haircut next.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:16 am to kingbob
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A big chunk of that money is paying for parish wide road projects and drainage
How about we just quote what they are saying and we don't make shite up?
LINK
I don't have a problem with this.
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2.8 mills of the annual millage will be re-allocated to the City-Parish General Fund for “Parish General Purposes,” with a net $16.24 Million to be applied annually to parish-wide Infrastructure needs for the Stormwater Master Plan and Street Maintenance Projects
I have a problem with this.
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The Library will make a one-time re-allocation of $52.4 Million from its Fund Balance, which will be used to pay down the Parish-Wide General Fund Debt
So what are those debts?
Here's what i found
LINK
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These redirected funds would be used immediately to pay down about $50 million in outstanding city debt. As of the end of last year, the city-parish’s debt totaled $52,461,612, largely from past infrastructure investments such as the Public Safety Complex, drainage improvements, the Raising Cane’s River Center, and police pension obligations.
The renovation of the public safety complex is the old womens hospital on airline near florida, which is Baton Rouge Police and a Clerk of Courts office now. Sounds like a city of Baton Rouge issue to me.
drainage improvements for who? Central, Zachary and Baker have had a public works department for a long time now. St. George has it's own public works division now, so if I call to get my collapsed culvert fixed, St. George public works is paying for it, not BR. And i can tell you that the city of BR didn't want to do these simple public works job for the city of BR for the last several years once we voted to pass ST. George. It took over 2 years for my neighbors collapsed culvert to get fixed despite him and another neighbor (who's house was flooding b/c of it) sending multiple requests to get it done.
LINK
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The City of St. George is launching its own public works request system.
According to officials, the city will assume independent responsibility for public works services on Saturday, Nov. 1.
This system will replace how residents request help with issues like potholes, roadside grass cutting, and ditch cleanouts.
The city has been using East Baton Rouge Parish’s 311 system for residents to report issues while city officials worked to transition to the independent system.
Raising Canes River Center? I don't have a problem with using parish money for that.
Police pension obligations? That's not the parish's problem. That's the city of Baton Rouge's problem.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:22 am to tha real thang
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How is the OT Going to Vote on THRIVE?
Voting doesn't matter
It's a waste of time because corrupt politicians will do whatever they want in the end anyway.
You're only allowed to cast a vote anymore because it keeps you hopeful and for the most part keep the right quite when they lose.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:22 am to LSURussian
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The Main Library on Goodwood Blvd was razed to the ground and rebuilt into a crystal palace a few years ago.
The main library and surrounding grounds are one of very few spots in the city that look like they belong in an actual city. Insert :that'swhatIvotedfor: meme here.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:22 am to doubleb
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This plan is a compromise plan. It makes use of our tax dollars that we all paid and was not vital to the Library and to MARC and allows us to move the money into the parish general fund for parish services.
It also provided the parish fund a continuing revenue stream so parish obligations can be maintained on a yearly basis.
If by parish services you mean the drainage projects and street projects, then yes.
IF by parish services you mean paying off debts for the city of BR, then no.
and i say that, and all the other crap i've said and i know that these proposal are probably for the better of everyone if they pass. And i only say that b/c the library tax is ridiculous and i'd rather it go to just about anything else. What this proposal is, is a bailout for the city of BR, which was inevitable b/c they have been relying on St. George money without giving it back for decades. Whatever. Take the damn money, b/c i know this proposal will pass with flying colors, and start managing THE CITY OF BR money better going forward, and don't ask the residents of St. George, Central, Zachary or Baker for money again.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:27 am to TeddyPadillac
SG is moving in the right direction. They are taking on minor drainage issues that you outlined.
But SG can’t address the bigger issues that we face in draining our region. We have two large rivers, a large bayou, numerous other bayous and creeks that have been neglected.
Sho is going to dredge, and maintain all these waterways?
And I don’t like bring on the hook for the city police or city fire, but remember this; the tax dollars accumulated by the Library Board snd MARC are also BR tax dollars. If done goes to pay off parish debt it helps us all in the long run.
But SG can’t address the bigger issues that we face in draining our region. We have two large rivers, a large bayou, numerous other bayous and creeks that have been neglected.
Sho is going to dredge, and maintain all these waterways?
And I don’t like bring on the hook for the city police or city fire, but remember this; the tax dollars accumulated by the Library Board snd MARC are also BR tax dollars. If done goes to pay off parish debt it helps us all in the long run.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:29 am to TeddyPadillac
I guess they could put toll entrances to enter..
BTW, cursing shows loss of control and ignorance in any civilized discussion.
BTW, cursing shows loss of control and ignorance in any civilized discussion.
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