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How hard is it to make a livable wage in oil country?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:39 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:39 am
I heard a report on the radio this morning about the people "left behind" as oil has recovered in the Permian basin.
One guy interviewed had two jobs (ran a cleaning service and cleaned rooms at a hotel) and yet, according to the report, he was struggling and received a subsidy to afford his 2 bedroom apt because he made under 32k/year.
The report was glowing about all the OT baller oil workers. I know less than zero about the industry, but it seemed to me this guy was trying to make it in the wrong field. How hard is it to get oil industry work that would pay more than this guy is making?
One guy interviewed had two jobs (ran a cleaning service and cleaned rooms at a hotel) and yet, according to the report, he was struggling and received a subsidy to afford his 2 bedroom apt because he made under 32k/year.
The report was glowing about all the OT baller oil workers. I know less than zero about the industry, but it seemed to me this guy was trying to make it in the wrong field. How hard is it to get oil industry work that would pay more than this guy is making?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:42 am to GAAtty70
There will always be rich and poor in every single society on the planet. I don't understand why people think this is unique.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:43 am to GAAtty70
It's really at the early stages of recovery, it's not back.
ps - I'm not really surprised that a guy cleaning motel rooms makes only 32k year. Doesnt sound like much of a story tbh.
ps - I'm not really surprised that a guy cleaning motel rooms makes only 32k year. Doesnt sound like much of a story tbh.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:46 am to GAAtty70
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One guy interviewed had two jobs (ran a cleaning service and cleaned rooms at a hotel)
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I know less than zero about the industry, but it seemed to me this guy was trying to make it in the wrong field. How hard is it to get oil industry work that would pay more than this guy is making?
there are only so many jobs available
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:46 am to GAAtty70
It also depends on what job they have. Is the worker a welder or a bus driver?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:53 am to upgrayedd
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There will always be rich and poor in every single society on the planet.
There aren't supposed to be rich and poor in the governmental and economic model they're proposing, and that's the point in all of these propaganda pieces disguised as human interest stories.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:56 am to GAAtty70
If he wants to be a cleaner and the cost of living is too high, why not.......move?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:57 am to GAAtty70
They are all doing well all the time.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:58 am to GAAtty70
Jesus said 2,000 years ago: "The poor ye shall have with you always..."
How is it so hard for liberals to get their heads wrapped around this concept?
How is it so hard for liberals to get their heads wrapped around this concept?
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:17 am to GAAtty70
I know the guy. There's more to his sad story. Depression led to drug use after getting laid off and his wife left him for another oil baw and his F250 got repoed. Then he sold his boat and yeti cooler for heroin money. Constantly got his arse beat at sonic after only being able to afford the value menu.
Sad story all around
Sad story all around
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:24 am to deltaland
The moment you hear 'living' or 'livable' wage, you know that everything that follows is going to be a huge pile of economically illiterate excrement.
There are no livable or unlivable wages; there are only wages, undertaken by choice.
There are no livable or unlivable wages; there are only wages, undertaken by choice.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:10 pm to GAAtty70
The pay in the oil industry is pretty good when its booming, but you have to deal with the ups and downs of the market and it seems there's more downs than ups.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:13 pm to deltaland
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Sad story all around
left out that he spends all day posting on TD when he should be out looking for a job
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:47 pm to BoardReader
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There are no livable or unlivable wages; there are only wages, undertaken by choice.
I agree with the choice statement.
It actually is possible to calculate a living wage by finding the monthly cost of a residence, necessary utilities, minimal food cost per person, etc.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:55 pm to volod
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It isactually is possible to calculate a living wage by finding the monthly cost of a residence, necessary utilities, minimal food cost per person, etc.
No. You can determine a cost of living; that has no bearing on the choice to accept a wage that is above, at, or below that-- nor should it ever. If the work isn't worth your while, or there exist no means to reach the cost of living--whether a supplemental income, a second job, or a partner's contributions--- that is a you problem, for accepting the wage.
Don't want it? Don't take it.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:56 pm to AnorexicGator
Read a report the other day that people in low wage jobs are more likely to be not working in 4 years than advancing. Of course the look at it as structural
It's not. In 4 years if you don't have marketable skills, you're virtually unemployable
It's not. In 4 years if you don't have marketable skills, you're virtually unemployable
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:01 pm to GAAtty70
quote:with zero experience? Pretty damn hard unless he is willing to work his arse off
How hard is it to get oil industry work that would pay more than this guy is making?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:11 pm to GAAtty70
I watch tv and click a mouse. Easily surpass 6 figures. Every once in a while i lift something. Guy gotta piss
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:22 pm to GAAtty70
Boom gonna boom.
Wages for all services tend to go up in booms, because demand for labor -- any labor -- in the oilfield goes up and wages are high.
(That may be a little different for this boom. There was a large supply of unemployed skill willing to move to West Texas).
It will bust. It is inevitable.
Wages for all services tend to go up in booms, because demand for labor -- any labor -- in the oilfield goes up and wages are high.
(That may be a little different for this boom. There was a large supply of unemployed skill willing to move to West Texas).
It will bust. It is inevitable.
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