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re: How hard is it to make a livable wage in oil country?

Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18570 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:38 pm to
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welder


"I got a trailer payment, a truck payment, a wife, and a girlfriend, and they're all late."

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24921 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 4:10 pm to
Not sure where "oil country" is.... but between Houston and New Orleans, there are a ton of Refineries, Chemical Plants, Power Plants, etc.. A person willing to work hard can make a good living. I've been doing it for the last 26 years. Even with zero boom, there is always work.

As with anything, cream rises to the top... there are those that will succeed at anything they do.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 4:32 pm to
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How hard is it to get oil industry work that would pay more than this guy is making?



If you can pass a drug test and have a CDL you will make $100k plus between now and the end of 2018 in the Delaware Basin.

If you work for a contractor doing unskilled work you can make $1000-$2000 weekly depending on OT.

Gas stations and McDonalds all have signs on the door for new hires with pay starting at $10/hr or up.

These are just examples of low/no skill jobs.

Baws with skills are all making $100k+ this year if they don't mind living in an RV in Mentone or Orla or Carlsbad.

The biggest challenge is affordable housing.

RV spots are going for $500-$1000/mo. One bedroom apartments are going for $1000+/mo. 3 bedroom houses are going for $2000-$3000/mo. Hampton Inn and Fairfield Inn typically go for $350-450/nt. Motel 6 types are going for $100-$150/nt.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66557 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 4:41 pm to
frick that i drive from hill country. Paid hourly while driving and .35 a mile. I never told them about my apartment so sometimes i drive back to LA and charge that.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11159 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:02 pm to
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The report was glowing about all the OT baller oil workers. I know less than zero about the industry, but it seemed to me this guy was trying to make it in the wrong field. How hard is it to get oil industry work that would pay more than this guy is making?


If you can piss clean, you can make way more than $32K/year in midland to right now.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:40 pm to
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How hard is it to get oil industry work that would pay more than this guy is making?

At 2013 oil prices, I would say about as hard as having a pulse and passing a drug test. But that’s during the peak of the boom.

The rest of the time, it’s like any other high-paying field. It depends on two things: relationships and marketable skills/experience. It’s a sliding scale.. you may be able to find a job as a roughneck with zero experience if you know the right people. And you may be able to land a highly technical gig with zero relationships if you’re an engineer with proven experience. Most “skilled labor” positions fall somewhere in-between. The more skills/education you have, the easier it is to get into the industry without friends.

Point being that if you’ve got a GED and you don’t know anyone in the industry, it’s not like you can just show up at the well site and start getting paid. Not in today’s market.

I always laugh when people talk about how much pipeline welders or tanker truck drivers make like its ridiculous. It’s not, it’s supply and demand. You can’t just hand any guy off the street a welding hood or the keys to a truck and say “have at it”. Blue collar workers still need an incentive to go live in bum frick North Dakota.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41382 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:46 pm to
If you can piss clean, work a squeegee and count to 10 you can make more than that racking pipe back.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 7:48 pm
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33959 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:04 pm to
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I know the guy. There's more to his sad story. Depression led to drug use after getting laid off and his wife left him for another oil baw and his F250 got repoed. Then he sold his boat and yeti cooler for heroin money. Constantly got his arse beat at sonic after only being able to afford the value menu.


So many others just like him.

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received a subsidy to afford his 2 bedroom apt because he made under 32k/year.


Was he feeding a bunch of kids? Otherwise, why would "they" give people that make $30K financial aid?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:09 pm to
It's not how much you make it's how you budget.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109174 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:21 pm to
Well, pay at other jobs especially cleaning will still be higher than some other locations, but with the boom and arrival of man power cost of housing has skyrocketed.

Housing is limited to none. You will be lucky to get on with a company that has bought out hotels, apartments, or has man camps. You may find affordable housing, but will be traveling a minimum of 90 minutes just to get close to your job site.

The fact the guy cleaning has a 2 bedroom apt is a good thing. He has opportunities to make a better wage, but chooses to clean.

One apartment complex opened recently and was sold out in a day. Another one was sold out to a large oil company before it was even completed.

Cost of living has risen as well because everyone is cashing in on the oil money.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:24 pm to
Truth
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:02 pm to
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One apartment complex opened recently and was sold out in a day. Another one was sold out to a large oil company before it was even completed.



If I had one guess I would say Carlsbad. Between cost of living, traffic, and weekly highway fatalities on 285 and 31 that town is a total cluster frick. And they are expecting another 20,000 or so moving to town by end of summer.

I saw the end of the last boom there, what is going on right now makes that look like child's play.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
14286 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 4:00 am to
Well if you’re not a lazy sack and are willing to work it’s not at all hard to make a damn good living.

I’ve been in the industry for 25 yrs. it’s provided my family a good life. Like others have said, it has its ups and downs. If you go into knowing that and don’t prepare for those “downs” then no job or wage will support you.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10953 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:36 am to
There will always be poor. There will always be war.
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