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re: How far back in time could an above average modern man go before he would turn into a wuss
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:16 pm to VABuckeye
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:16 pm to VABuckeye
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I just finished The Last Kingdom and am now watching Vikings. Why not? Kill or be killed and if you live you take and frick whatever you want.
I listen to a LOT of history stuff, and you have to understand, these men weren’t all that different from us, physically and mentally.
They were just raised in totally different times.
Where traits that some of society discourages today were celebrated and exhalted.
You take a man from today and place him in that culture, and cultivate those more brutal elements...and you end up with a Viking, or a spartan, or a Roman legionary. A mongol or a Persian Immortal. A hussar, a conquistador. An Aztec Jaguar.
These were all flesh and blood men. It’s the crucible in which you forge a man that makes him. The hammer blows and the fire in which his mettle is tested.
You give me a Society in which warriors are lauded, where strength and ruthlessness are rewarded, and let that society raise men...
These tide pod eating soy boys would be like warriors of old.
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 10:17 pm
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:20 pm to athenslife101
for me whenever was before air conditioning
I also like flushing away my problems so if toilets came after A/C it would be then but I am pretty sure A/C came later.
I also like flushing away my problems so if toilets came after A/C it would be then but I am pretty sure A/C came later.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:25 pm to Skorzany
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Just remember that if the shite goes down we friends right fr33manator?
I’ll shed blood and break bread with any decent man fighting for his family and freedom if it comes to it.
I hope like hell it doesn’t. I like AC and electricity. But if it all goes down tomorrow, i’ll Die with my boots on defending my friends and family.
Don’t get me wrong...I love peace. But I’ve learned to much to believe that peace will last forever.
Every empire falls, in fire and blood and steel. So I hope for the best and enjoy these halcyon days my forebears suffered through frost and flame and mud for. And if the time comes...my powder is dry and my blades are sharp.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:26 pm to BRich
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People didn't wear shorts, T-shirts, and short sleeve dri-tek golf shirts back in the 1700s, 1800s and early 1900s.They dressed much more formally, in heavier clothes, and showed very little skin.
Ever wonder why so many people wear so many clothes in the desert?
The crusaders famously adopted the dress of the saracens because it was so much more comfortable.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:49 pm to nola000
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You see, I thought about air conditioning, but homes were built differently to provide natural air conditioning
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This is absolutely true. I grew up a carpenter in New Orleans. Every aspect of homes back then that were built in the South, were built to breathe and channel the breeze through the rooms. From the design to the building materials.
You're as full of crap as a Christmas turkey if you think any of this even approached the effectiveness and comfort of modern day AC. I grew up in a pier and beam home that had stucco walls, awnings over every widow, lots of windows, and an attic fan. In the summer you would wake up in the middle of the night in a puddle of sweat. Churches, schools, office buildings, your car, all the same way. It's not like you got to hang around the house under the attic fan all day.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:59 pm to JackieTreehorn
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To when air conditioning did not exist. I’d tap out.
I'd say this and clean drinking water.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:05 am to member12
People used to drink beer and wine instead of water so there is that
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:40 am to athenslife101
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The 19th century
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People dressed relatively similar. People’s morals were similar. People behaved similarly. People had careers and jobs similar to today.
This is like Charlie Kelly level ignorance of the world
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:40 am to athenslife101
Whatever time before grocery stores were invented. Id be damn if in order for me to have steak id have to chase down a cow.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:43 am to fr33manator
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I hope like hell it doesn’t. I like AC and electricity. But if it all goes down tomorrow, i’ll Die with my boots on defending my friends and family.
Don’t get me wrong...I love peace. But I’ve learned to much to believe that peace will last forever.
Every empire falls, in fire and blood and steel. So I hope for the best and enjoy these halcyon days my forebears suffered through frost and flame and mud for. And if the time comes...my powder is dry and my blades are sharp.
Goodness guy lay off the Roman Empire movies.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:51 am to nola000
Audrey was so fine,and that's by today's standards. I could only imagine how she was though of back then.
I could only go back as far as automobiles and trains. I would never make it having to horse around to get everywhere i needed.
I could only go back as far as automobiles and trains. I would never make it having to horse around to get everywhere i needed.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:54 am to ManBearTiger
What’s ignorant?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:41 am to athenslife101
Up to the point guns became the main defense weapon. Screw swinging a sword.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:11 am to athenslife101
If someone current goes back into another time period they are going to have a really rough time, just as a person from the distant past would have a hard time in today's world. As with most things, it's all relative.
I think that I could probably be ok as far back as the 50s.
I think that I could probably be ok as far back as the 50s.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 3:13 am
Posted on 1/6/19 at 7:30 am to Tigerhead
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You're as full of crap as a Christmas turkey if you think any of this even approached the effectiveness and comfort of modern day AC
Point to where I said that.
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I grew up in a pier and beam home that had stucco walls, awnings over every widow, lots of windows, and an attic fan.
Every single one of y'all that are disagreeing are referencing the homes built in the mid-twentieth century. That's nowhere near as far back as we're talking here.
Post WW2 is where we lost our way in home design. The homes that were built for the returning vets had a big influence on the way homes in this country were built thereafter. The first big deviation from what works occurred during the art deco and art nouveau periods. Where a lot of influence from cooler climates took hold down south. Specifically, craftsman homes. They weren't designed with our climate in mind
Look, this is my wheelhouse. I'm telling you, properly designed, you're looking at a feels like temp drop of up to 12 degrees from ambient
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 7:36 am
Posted on 1/6/19 at 8:17 am to nola000
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you're looking at a feels like temp drop of up to 12 degrees from ambient
Windows opened or closed? Was there a way to reduce the relative humidity level to help achieve the 12 degree "feels like" temperature drop?
In low humidity environments with a significant overnight temperature drop, you can keep a well insulated home cool, relative to the outside temperature, during the day by leaving windows open overnight and closing them during the day. The low humidity levels keep it comfortable during the warmer parts of the day. But this technique doesn't work nearly as well in high humidity environments where overnight temperatures might not get below 80 degrees.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 9:48 am to mmmmmbeeer
Just curious. What intelligence and knowledge do you have that would be transferable and helpful if you were dropped into say the 18th century?
How would it help you to be "extremely successful"? Be specific.
If you are a chemist or mechanical engineer, maybe. Even then, you are starting from basically nothing in terms of technology.
How would it help you to be "extremely successful"? Be specific.
If you are a chemist or mechanical engineer, maybe. Even then, you are starting from basically nothing in terms of technology.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:31 pm to White Roach
Good afternoon fellow near genius! Long time no see.
Humidity will always be the issue. Air flow helps with evaporation, cooling you off. That's why they often had wet rags around their necks.
That is correct, which is why homes weren't insulated back then. You didn't want the homes to be insulated because it would trap heat and humidity.
Comfort is determined by humidity level, temperature and wind/airflow. In our part of the country you couldn't beat the temperature or the humidity, pre-refrigeration, so the only thing you could attack is air flow. So homes were designed to flow really well. Breathe.
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Was there a way to reduce the relative humidity level to help achieve the 12 degree "feels like" temperature drop?
Humidity will always be the issue. Air flow helps with evaporation, cooling you off. That's why they often had wet rags around their necks.
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In low humidity environments with a significant overnight temperature drop, you can keep a well insulated home cool, relative to the outside temperature, during the day by leaving windows open overnight and closing them during the day.
That is correct, which is why homes weren't insulated back then. You didn't want the homes to be insulated because it would trap heat and humidity.
Comfort is determined by humidity level, temperature and wind/airflow. In our part of the country you couldn't beat the temperature or the humidity, pre-refrigeration, so the only thing you could attack is air flow. So homes were designed to flow really well. Breathe.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:47 pm to nola000
You're the guy with an IQ in the upper 130s, not me. I'm the guy trying to figure out where the 12 degree temperature differential is coming from in an uninsulated home that is open to the ambient temperature and relative humidity levels. The mold and mildew must have been an ongoing fight during the summer, even with some forced airflow.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:51 pm to TigerCoon
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Just curious. What intelligence and knowledge do you have that would be transferable and helpful if you were dropped into say the 18th century?
How would it help you to be "extremely successful"? Be specific.
I agree. What good would it be for me to know how to work an iPhone in a world that doesn’t even have electricity or plastic?
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