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How do you handle paternity leave in performance rankings
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:55 am
Real issue for metric driven organizations. Your 1 rated performer has a child and takes off for 3 months of the yearly evaluation period . Zero work out put for that three months. Do you drop they/them to average, giving a coworker who was in place the entire time a shot at the 1 rating. A coworker that probably had to pick up the slack.
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:56 am to Trevaylin
I wouldn't fault an employee for taking time off if it's company policy to allow it.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:57 am to Trevaylin
I would rate him on his performance during the 9 months he was working. If the organization is providing paternity leave, then they should be accepting of the skewed metrics.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:59 am to Loup
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I wouldn't fault an employee for taking time off if it's company policy to allow it.
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This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:00 am to Trevaylin
If I instituted a policy and a subordinate properly followed that policy, I wouldn’t ding him for it.
If the policy caused issues I would take ownership as the party responsible for coming up with and implementing the policy.
To do otherwise would make me a failure as a man and as a leader.
If the policy caused issues I would take ownership as the party responsible for coming up with and implementing the policy.
To do otherwise would make me a failure as a man and as a leader.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:02 am to JohnnyKilroy
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If I instituted a policy and a subordinate properly followed that policy, I wouldn’t ding him for it.
If the policy caused issues I would take ownership as the party responsible for coming up with and implementing the policy.
To do otherwise would make me a failure as a man and as a leader.
All them baws in the other thread won't like this.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:02 am to Trevaylin
Don’t fault the employee being out for permitted family reasons.
Bump up the employee who picked up the slack IF it their output measurably increased and IF they did not erode morale during the period of additional work.
Bump up the employee who picked up the slack IF it their output measurably increased and IF they did not erode morale during the period of additional work.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:03 am to jizzle6609
Why are several people assuming this is a man? I've never heard of 3 months for paternity leave. Maternity maybe, but not paternity.
But either way, if it's policy and they did good work during the 9 months then I would rate them on that. I mean, what is the plan to say..."This worker was outstanding for nine months, but then didn't do shite for three, so they 'need improvement' on their performance." ?
ETA: Whoops, I misread paternity as maternity. Yes, I know there is a difference. But I will leave my post unedited above and face my shame and ridicule.
But either way, if it's policy and they did good work during the 9 months then I would rate them on that. I mean, what is the plan to say..."This worker was outstanding for nine months, but then didn't do shite for three, so they 'need improvement' on their performance." ?
ETA: Whoops, I misread paternity as maternity. Yes, I know there is a difference.
But I will leave my post unedited above and face my shame and ridicule.This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:03 am to Trevaylin
Had this conversation with many men over the years and very rarely do people find it acceptable to take 3 consecutive months off.
This is assuming the birth went smooth and there were no complications with mama or baby. Personally 2.5 weeks is what I think is fair to you and your employer.
This is assuming the birth went smooth and there were no complications with mama or baby. Personally 2.5 weeks is what I think is fair to you and your employer.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:04 am to Trevaylin
This is a chick right?
ANd if it is a chick, the kid is not one of the clients right?
Her numbers are really good according to you so I figure Id ask.
ANd if it is a chick, the kid is not one of the clients right?
Her numbers are really good according to you so I figure Id ask.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:04 am to Trevaylin
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Your 1 rated performer has a child and takes off for 3 months of the yearly evaluation period
3 months is absolutely ridiculous unless there is some special circumstance. If mother has bad complications, etc, I could understand.
One month would be stretching it in my opinion. If he needs to come some half days, miss days here and there, etc. that’s ok. If the dude is taking a solid three months off, that’s an issue in my opinion.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:04 am to turnpiketiger
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Personally 2.5 weeks is what I think is fair
What you think is fair has frick all to do with anything
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:05 am to BigPerm30
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3 months is absolutely ridiculous unless there is some special circumstance. If mother has bad complications, etc, I could understand.
One month would be stretching it in my opinion. If he needs to come some half days, miss days here and there, etc. that’s ok. If the dude is taking a solid three months off, that’s an issue in my opinion.
This is where disagreement will come in.
A MAN should have no more than a week, no more.
Im ok with women having a long time with a newborn.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:05 am to Trevaylin
At leat you got his pronouns right.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:07 am to jizzle6609
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A MAN should have no more than a week, no more.
I agree. Took off three days for one kid and had another kid on a Saturday so I could be at work on Monday. Kids are so fricking soft nowadays. It’s fricking absurd how these trophy generation kids are.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:10 am to CocomoLSU
quote:Because it is paternity leave. If it was a woman it would be called MAternity leave.
Why are several people assuming this is a man?
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 10:13 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:11 am to Trevaylin
What is wild is that you’re apparently in a leadership position asking a forum if you should drop their performance rating because they took a company approved leave.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:12 am to Trevaylin
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Real issue for metric driven organizations.
It’s really not
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:14 am to BigPerm30
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I agree. Took off three days for one kid and had another kid on a Saturday so I could be at work on Monday. Kids are so fricking soft nowadays. It’s fricking absurd how these trophy generation kids are.
Its ridiculous husbands should be out that long.
Almost every time her mom or your mom is going to be there helping her while her cooter heels.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:14 am to BigPerm30
quote:Try having a baby in the NICU for several weeks and see if you can go back to work, and be productive after only 3 days off.
I agree. Took off three days for one kid and had another kid on a Saturday so I could be at work on Monday. Kids are so fricking soft nowadays. It’s fricking absurd how these trophy generation kids are.
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