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re: How COVID cases are defined and counted by the CDC - this will piss you off
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:10 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:10 pm to theunknownknight
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:10 pm to WDE24
quote:So does the CDC. Surveillance case tracking is nothing new...they've been recording this type of data since the 90s for numerous types of infectious diseases. In their data reports, they also differentiate between confirmed positives and suspected positives. How people manipulate that data is not their fault
Alabama appears to differentiate the two. The department of public health releases a number for confirmed and a different number for probable. Is this not similar in other states?
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:12 pm to theunknownknight
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Federal dollars to various institutions
Isn’t the CDC a federal institution? Why would a federal institution need to cook the books to get federal dollars they’re already getting?
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:12 pm to theunknownknight
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Probable COULD technically be defined as someone who walked into a doctor's office and complains
Correct. This has been happening for a while now.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:13 pm to The Nino
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How people manipulate that data is not their fault
How's LA doing it? All I could find is probable deaths and "cases"
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:14 pm to theunknownknight
The "official" numbers were ALWAYS a lie.
At this point, only mentally retarded people believe otherwise.
At this point, only mentally retarded people believe otherwise.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:15 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Isn’t the CDC a federal institution? Why would a federal institution need to cook the books to get federal dollars they’re already getting?
CDC is writing their definitions so loosely along with HHS' reimbursement guidelines that the books cook themselves on the hospital/state level.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:19 pm to TH03
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*awaits motorcycle COVID death reply*
I knew idiots that believed anything they were told by people who self-identify as "experts" existed, but never met one til now....HOWDY!!!
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:23 pm to oogabooga68
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oogabooga68
Your post history just gave me cancer.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:27 pm to TH03
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Cool, so the death rate will plummet even lower.
Ultimately it’s why you look at test volume, positive rate and deaths/hospitalizations. You need to evaluate from a few angles and see where the data takes you in various jurisdictions. It’s not easy to uniformly monitor and track with so many different approaches out there
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:28 pm to TH03
And when you die, your heroes will list it as Covid.... 
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:37 pm to TH03
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Your post history just gave me cancer.
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TH03
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:41 pm to theunknownknight
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How COVID cases are defined and counted by the CDC
You are over-sensationalizing that. The CDC differentiates Confirmed and Probable cases on their site when they have that data given to them. Not all jurisdictions are reporting the numbers separately. You can go to the site and see for yourself. LINK For most states that report it, it's a small fraction. Here are some numbers. I didn't feel like doing the whole list so I grabbed some on the high and low side.
% of Cases that are 'Probable'
Michigan - is probably the highest at 10%
South Carolina - .4%
Alabama - 2.5%
Colorado - 6.9%
New York City - 2.1%
Miss - 1.4%
Ohio - 5.3%
Illinois - .7%
Massachusetts - 6.4%
Puerto Rico is an outlier. I am pretty sure I remember them having testing issues so I assume that is why.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:43 pm to ashy larry
quote:That doesn't sound right.
You are over-sensationalizing that.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:45 pm to ashy larry
and, as suspected, I see LA is not separating them out.
And we are to believe the numbers?
And we are to believe the numbers?
Posted on 7/30/20 at 1:04 pm to theunknownknight
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and, as suspected, I see LA is not separating them out.
And we are to believe the numbers?
They don't appear to be reporting them to the CDC. They have the actual test information on LDH's site. You can download the spreadsheets. I don't care enough to compare them.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 1:10 pm to ashy larry
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You are over-sensationalizing that.
NOT THE OT!
Posted on 7/30/20 at 1:31 pm to ashy larry
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They have the actual test information on LDH's site. You can download the spreadsheets.
I did, I'm not seeing where they delineate between the two.
I am seeing a major discrepancy of an increase of almost 22% in cases from the census tract summary to the parish summary for the same time frame.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 1:32 pm to RB10
Damn, I really hurt you at some point if you’re still crying. 
Posted on 7/30/20 at 1:42 pm to TH03
but but JBE said this wasn't true.......
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