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How COVID cases are defined and counted by the CDC - this will piss you off
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:00 pm
ETA: LA's reported numbers do not separate Probable and Confirmed cases (only deaths) so this does pertain to Louisiana. Keep that in mind during the next press conference.
From the official CDC guidelines:
LINK
There are TWO types of COVID cases and BOTH count towards the numbers we see everyday
PROBABLE and confirmed (by lab testing).
Probable COULD technically be defined as someone who walked into a doctor's office and complains (subjective) of chills and a sore throat AND "No alternative more likely diagnosis" (OR just trouble breathing)
This combined with suspected exposure to COVID counts as an OFFICIAL CASE though not technically confirmed.
in other words a:
1. legit cold
2. strep throat with test taken too early
3. sinus infection
4. illness with Flu like symptoms
5. False negative flu test
6. Panic Attack
7. etc
Would ALL be listed under probable and if you told the doctor you were out in public where there were confirmed or suspected cases AT SOME POINT, you would be classified as an OFFICIAL COVID CASE which can be counted though not technically confirmed by the lab.
If they keep this definition, the "COVID" numbers are going to go through the roof in the fall.
From the official CDC guidelines:
quote:
A surveillance case definition is a set of uniform criteria used to define a disease for public health surveillance. Surveillance case definitions enable public health officials to classify and count cases consistently across reporting jurisdictions. Surveillance case definitions are not intended to be used by healthcare providers for making a clinical diagnosis or determining how to meet an individual patient’s health needs.
LINK
There are TWO types of COVID cases and BOTH count towards the numbers we see everyday
PROBABLE and confirmed (by lab testing).
Probable COULD technically be defined as someone who walked into a doctor's office and complains (subjective) of chills and a sore throat AND "No alternative more likely diagnosis" (OR just trouble breathing)
This combined with suspected exposure to COVID counts as an OFFICIAL CASE though not technically confirmed.
in other words a:
1. legit cold
2. strep throat with test taken too early
3. sinus infection
4. illness with Flu like symptoms
5. False negative flu test
6. Panic Attack
7. etc
Would ALL be listed under probable and if you told the doctor you were out in public where there were confirmed or suspected cases AT SOME POINT, you would be classified as an OFFICIAL COVID CASE which can be counted though not technically confirmed by the lab.
If they keep this definition, the "COVID" numbers are going to go through the roof in the fall.
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:01 pm to theunknownknight
This should be fun.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:03 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
If they keep this definition, the "COVID" numbers are going to go through the roof in the fall.
Cool, so the death rate will plummet even lower.
*awaits motorcycle COVID death reply*
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:04 pm to theunknownknight
It just offsets the false positives
It’s a wash at the end of the day
It’s a wash at the end of the day
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:04 pm to TH03
quote:
Cool, so the death rate will plummet even lower.
muh goal posts!
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:04 pm to theunknownknight
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This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 7:52 am
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:05 pm to theunknownknight
Alabama appears to differentiate the two. The department of public health releases a number for confirmed and a different number for probable. Is this not similar in other states?
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:05 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
If they keep this definition, the "COVID" numbers are going to go through the roof in the fall.
The election will be over so... no I doubt that happens.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:05 pm to TH03
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so the death rate will plummet even lower.
Which that’s really the only thing that matters
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:06 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Which that’s really the only thing that matters
Apparently not, or we would be in phase 4 by now
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:07 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
muh goal posts!
What about them?
If the goal is to fraudulently increase case numbers to act like it’s more dangerous than it is, it would backfire because all it would do is lower the death rate to basically 0.
There would be no incentive to do that unless you move the goalposts to the “motorcycle accident is counted as a covid death” argument.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:07 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Apparently not, or we would be in phase 4 by now
You missed my point
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:07 pm to theunknownknight
I’m also curious as to the reward for tests administered. There seems to be a race to be the state with the highest numbers of tests administered. What’s the kickback on that?
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:08 pm to WDE24
quote:
Alabama appears to differentiate the two. The department of public health releases a number for confirmed and a different number for probable. Is this not similar in other states?
Texas is based on viral and antibody testing, not probable but unconfirmed cases. Death counts are based on death certificates and not what is reported to the CDC.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:09 pm to Geauxld Finger
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What’s the kickback on that?
I'm sure more federal $$$$.. That's what JBE is worried about.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:09 pm to Geauxld Finger
quote:
I’m also curious as to the reward for tests administered. There seems to be a race to be the state with the highest numbers of tests administered. What’s the kickback on that?
Federal dollars to various institutions
Posted on 7/30/20 at 12:10 pm to WDE24
quote:
Alabama appears to differentiate the two. The department of public health releases a number for confirmed and a different number for probable. Is this not similar in other states?
Mississippi does this, as well.
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