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re: Houston hospitals claiming full capacity suspiciously stop reporting data

Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:59 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:59 am to
The little socialist and Mayor Turner both have hardons right now because of this
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38815 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:01 am to
Too busy tik tokking to report data
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:01 am to
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Covid loses them money...they have financial incentive to push the government to enforce measures to keep them well under capacity so they can turn a profit.


Huh? Please explain how this supposedly works.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:04 am to
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You can be in there for a broken leg, but if you test positive for Covid....you count.
And guess what, if you fall and break you hip and develop pneumonia....you are a pneumonia case
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17806 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:14 am to
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suspiciously


Why is this suspicious? Seems rather clear. Media and news outlets were incorrectly making assumptions based on numbers reported since they didn’t understand the data or didn’t have the entire picture. So they stopped reporting numbers.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:14 am to
carhartt, WK??
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:15 am to
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Lol, bull fricking sheeeet. Why do you believe that? It’s very very simple. Each institution does a bed count, submits it to one person, they add all 11 up


I'm wondering why even add them up as a system?? Why not list individually? Wouldn't that be more informative for the regular people out there?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:18 am to
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Why is this suspicious? Seems rather clear. Media and news outlets were incorrectly making assumptions based on numbers reported since they didn’t understand the data or didn’t have the entire picture. So they stopped reporting numbers.

cause everything is a conspiracy.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94758 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:18 am to
stopped listening to them when they did this:

quote:

Texas Medical Center
@TXMedCenter
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Jun 9
Wearing white coats, scrubs and street clothes, hundreds of TMC healthcare professionals gathered this afternoon to support the Black community and the eradication of police violence. We stand in solidarity. #WhiteCoatsForBlackLives


quote:

Texas Medical Center
@TXMedCenter
·
Jun 9
TMC scientists and health professionals using their voice and holding a peaceful walking vigil in solidarity with the Black community. #WhiteCoatsForBlackLives




so much social distancing

much concern for virus transmission
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:21 am to
Hobnailboot, so they're basically still in Phase 1 of that chart, right?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:22 am to
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Huh? Please explain how this supposedly works


Outpatient procedures are where hospitals make money. If you shut that down for covid you are fricked
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:22 am to
But they're going to reply with "but masks were worn so we didn't contribute to the increase"
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24488 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:26 am to
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Covid loses them money...they have financial incentive to push the government to enforce measures to keep them well under capacity so they can turn a profit.


Huh? Please explain how this supposedly works.


Are you honestly trying to say you haven’t seen a single financial report on the hospitals losing money? They stopped doing outpatient and elective procedures for Covid in the spring and lost millions and had to lay off tons of staff.

If they have to save beds for Covid and stop elective procedures, hospitals lose money. It’s not a conspiracy it’s fact.

They weren’t positive about this before this spring, but now they know.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94758 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:27 am to
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But they're going to reply with "but masks were worn so we didn't contribute to the increase"

so large gatherings in close proximity is medically sound advice delivered from the esteemed "Texas Medical Center"?

Great news for churches, bars and July 4th celebrations! Just bring a 50 cent mask with you!
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by hometownhero89
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:29 am to
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They were counting all hospitalized patients that happen to test positive for Covid as a Covid hospitalization. You can be in there for a broken leg, but if you test positive for Covid....you count.

They need to fix their data. It's difficult to predict if they will run out of resources at hospitals to fight this if they are playing politics with it.


I've been bringing up the talking point that we've never been told of the false positive(false alarm) amount of cases with all the amount of testing performed.

There has been no talk of false positives with COVID testing at all. that's insane. False positives always occur in all testing performed on all different aspects/industrial practices of analytics across the country.
But none with COVID because these "frontline heroes" aren't making any mistakes and we should just believe that all their testing is 100% accurate.

what a joke.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61831 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:30 am to
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Huh? Please explain how this supposedly works.
When the original stay at home orders came down, hospital visits, clinics and elective surgeries went down the crapper for an epidemic that mostly did not materialize.

The medical community lost so much money, it was staggering. People were scared to go to the doctor.

If case count necessitates a return of Stage 1, that’s very bad for the health systems.

So they want just enough restriction or social distancing to slow the spread rate but not enough to stop it or accelerate it.
Posted by hometownhero89
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:32 am to
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tigerfoot


quote:

cause everything is a conspiracy.


cause everything is a conspiracy when the narrative doesn't convince the masses.

FIFY
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:33 am to
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It's difficult to predict if they will run out of resources at hospitals to fight this if they are playing politics with it.


They are apparently doing fine. When all this started my company was getting calls every day from hospitals needing supplies, nobody could keep up. But now we haven't heard a peep from Houston hospitals in probably two weeks.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32318 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:39 am to
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Lots of large cities run their ICUs at 80~90% capacity all of the time.

What really matters is surge capacity, and they should have a plan at this point.


Exactly, hospitals have had months to plan and prepare for huge surges coming to their ICU's. Medical equipment, masks, vents are now plentiful. Hell, they can borrow from NYC & the massive carrier they stationed on the waters for the NYC surge that went unused.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:39 am to
Texas has record new cases and younger peops are being hospitalized according to this article. Also says 47 deaths thursday was most since May 20.

quote:

We have seen the highest number of hospitalized patients. ... Almost 60% of cases are in the 20-49-year-old range.



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