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re: Houston hospitals claiming full capacity suspiciously stop reporting data
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:40 am to noonan
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:40 am to noonan
quote:And you've got a warehouse stocked and ready to ship when needed.... The same exact thing happened in my area, my BIL heads a pharmaceutical business here and their mass surge of supply needs have withered in the last 3 weeks.
They are apparently doing fine. When all this started my company was getting calls every day from hospitals needing supplies, nobody could keep up. But now we haven't heard a peep from Houston hospitals in probably two weeks.
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:41 am to The Mick
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The death toll also spiked, to about 2,500, as New Jersey added 1,854 probable deaths to its overall tally.
Wtf does this even mean? How am I supposed to take that?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:43 am to The Mick
WaPo didnt read
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:44 am to The Mick
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Texas has record new cases and younger peops are being hospitalized according to this article. Also says 47 deaths thursday was most since May 20.
That's like a 9 death day in LA or AL.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:48 am to icegator337
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know people want to claim politics and fear mongering or whatever but I can buy this... quote: you put 11 or so institutions together all trying to figure out something this complicated and trying to figure out how we express it a little bit more accurately — it took a while, a little longer than any of us would have liked, but simply because it’s complicated. I like what we came up with
Absolutely can. But when it comes out that the hospitals are not at near overrun capacity the state should resume the level of activity they had before the shut down immediately.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:48 am to SloaneRanger
Plus, if you trend out deaths, Texas flattened out a long time ago.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:49 am to Funky Tide 8
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yeah I'm not sure how basic math is so "complicated."
Common core
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:55 am to tigerfoot
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And guess what, if you fall and break you hip and develop pneumonia....you are a pneumonia case
Vastly different. You were admitted to the hospital for a broken leg and developed pneumonia in the hospital.
If you already had covid but never knew and only went to the hospital for a broken leg, why the hell would you be a covid hospitalization if as soon as your leg is good enough you are discharged?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:58 am to The Mick
And I’d bet 95% of those deaths came from 45-49 year olds who were obese
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:59 am to tiggerthetooth
Data manipulation at its finest
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:01 am to East Coast Band
Yes
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:01 am to UltimaParadox
Correct
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:03 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I live in Tyler and I don’t remember this happening in 2018
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:04 am to tiggerthetooth
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Last Wednesday, 11 TMC leaders issued a statement warning that an “alarming” increase in hospitalizations soon could “overwhelm” their systems.
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The next morning, Abbott issued an order restricting elective procedures at hospitals in Harris and Texas’ three other largest counties, saying he wanted to ensure the facilities retained enough beds to deal with the surge of cases.
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Shortly after, four of the 11 TMC CEOs held a video press conference to tone down the concern they had expressed in the letter just 18 hours before.
quote:Here's the story in 4 sentences.
Hospital revenues had plunged after Abbott last restricted elective procedures in late March.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:06 am to tiggerthetooth
This is like one of Alabama's lead doctors saying the state only has 16% ICU capacity left. The only way that could even be a remote possibility is if the good doctor used cumulative totals from early March to prop up his statement. Otherwise, we would have to completely throw out every bit of data that the Alabama Department of Public Health has gathered, tracked, and posted.
Stop with the fear mongering and report facts, please. Thanks.
Stop with the fear mongering and report facts, please. Thanks.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:16 am to LegendInMyMind
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This is like one of Alabama's lead doctors saying the state only has 16% ICU capacity left. The only way that could even be a remote possibility is if the good doctor used cumulative totals from early March to prop up his statement. Otherwise, we would have to completely throw out every bit of data that the Alabama Department of Public Health has gathered, tracked, and posted.
Correct. Go to the BamaTracker twitter feed. If you look for it, there is a graph for cumulative ICU admissions. Now a cumulative chart isn't that helpful because it only goes up, but take a look at how flat that ICU chart is. No spike whatsoever. And none of the media here is crying about ICU capacity. The fact is, at least in AL, there is no threat to hospital or ICU capacity.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:19 am to SloaneRanger
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And none of the media here is crying about ICU capacity. The fact is, at least in AL, there is no threat to hospital or ICU capacity.
That's not really true. My Twitter feed (primarily weather shite and local news outlets) has been full of articles talking about hospitals filling up. The doctor who said only 16% of ICU beds are now open was quoted in one of those articles. I will look them up if you want. They are pushing that info, though.
And what that doc and others have said seems to only jive if you look only at cumulative numbers.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:28 am to RT1941
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And you've got a warehouse stocked and ready to ship when needed
Yup. We are getting requests from other areas. But Houston is quiet.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:41 am to NIH
quote:agreed.
And I’d bet 95% of those deaths came from 45-49 year olds who were obese
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:58 pm to tiger91
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Hobnailboot, so they're basically still in Phase 1 of that chart, right?
95% of Phase 1 bed capacity is occupied, primarily by people who can be moved and don't have COVID. They have Phase 2, Phase 3, and surge availability even if they don't move non-COVIDs.
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