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re: Houston Drug dealing attemped cop killers didn’t do anything update:murder charged to cop

Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:00 am to
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:00 am to
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You can back the blue all you want, but this cop is dirty. Couple bags of H found in the center console of his squad car. Lied on the warrant. Sketchy details on whether the guy in the house fired a shot. Cops can’t find his “informant” that supposedly bought H at the house.

This dude broke into a home, killed every living person and thing and got 4 of his fellow officers harmed on a complete lie.



But that black gay guy faked his attack to get Trump!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:05 am to
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So we shouldn’t trust any profession that has bad apples? Do police have significantly more bad apples than other professions?

I mean there are bad doctors out there? Should I just never go to the doctor?


Lol at this comparison.

A bad doctor isn't breaking down my door to shoot me, my family, and my dog.

If a doctor fricks up my surgery and I die, I for one knew the risk going in and CHOSE WILLINGLY to risk it, and two, my family has a much easier path for getting monetary damages and see to it that the doctor is in jail. That doesn't happen as often with police because of blind back the blue types and cops protecting their own.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73230 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:10 am to
man, I was wrong to defend the police in this situation. Holy shite this thing has turned upside down on HPD. Time to do some house cleaning.


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Do other professions have a history of looking the other way, ignoring, and covering up the bad actions of their co-workers. Bad actions which involve depriving people of their liberty, shootings, and physical harm


lot of politicians who could also fit this job description
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 8:13 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23402 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:29 am to
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A bad doctor isn't breaking down my door to shoot me, my family, and my dog.


Yes you are right because that is part of a doctors job description right? Furthermore, not all cops serve no knock warrants.

Ok, how about the doctors that over prescribed Pain killers and turned people into addicts. Does that make all doctors bad?

The cops here looks very criminal. If what is coming out is true he deserves to go to jail. But the idea this makes even the entire HPD corrupt is laughable.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15962 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:31 am to
Haha yeah and I don’t trust politicians 100% either.

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The cops here looks very criminal. If what is coming out is true he deserves to go to jail. But the idea this makes even the entire HPD corrupt is laughable.


I don’t most people believe this means all HPD are corrupt. It does make people take pause and think twice about what the police come out and say about how things happened.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 8:34 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:34 am to
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Yes you are right because that is part of a doctors job description right?



Right, so since it is in the cops', maybe they should be a lot more careful to ensure they don't take an innocent life?


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Ok, how about the doctors that over prescribed Pain killers and turned people into addicts. Does that make all doctors bad?


IDK, are they forcing them down my throat? You're refusing to accept the responsibility of the patient here. It's not comparable to a bullet which you can't really say "no thanks" to when it's coming at you.

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But the idea this makes even the entire HPD corrupt is laughable.


The god damn chief of police lied to the public at every opportunity he had to. GTFO with this.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:35 am to
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lot of politicians who could also fit this job description



100%. It happens to a lot of people in positions of power.
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:51 am to
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Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17215 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:28 am to
Im just now finding this thread, reading through some of the pages. My first thought: maybe I'm in the minoriry here, but I believe no-knock raids should not be legal, except for the most extreme circumstances. If there is reason to believe suspect of murder is in the house, then by all means go in there and take him down.. but doing these big military style raids because someone sells weed or crack is fricking BS imo.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59431 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:30 am to
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But that black gay guy faked his attack to get Trump!


That's a terrible comparison. Only thing in common is lies. The motivations and effects are completely different.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17215 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:40 am to
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So we shouldn’t trust any profession that has bad apples? Do police have significantly more bad apples than other professions?


I get that point, and to that, I respond with what I thought was a funny quote from Chris Rock stand-up.


There are bad professions in every profession. Bad teachers don't help their students learn. Bad professional athletes make their team lose. Bad singers get the most play on the radio Bad chefs make nasty food. Bad cops get innocent people arrested, or worse, shoot someone. There is a difference.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17215 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:44 am to
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Some 90 something year old lady in Atlanta got lit up a few years ago in a no knock raid in the middle of the night. She was still in bed, but was holding a pistol. So they hosed her. Shitty neighborhood, which is why she had a gun. Cops were at the wrong address and obviously weren't looking for a 94 year old grandmother. It was a pretty big deal, as it should have been.


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Even better- that old lady didn't have a gun. After the cops realized they had busted into the wrong house and killed her when she got up unarmed, they planted that gun on her body


Mother of God. I remember that story. I can't believe that is what happened. I really hope her family got paid, and the cops who planted the gun/covered it up all get arrested.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23402 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:50 am to
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There are bad professions in every profession. Bad teachers don't help their students learn. Bad professional athletes make their team lose. Bad singers get the most play on the radio Bad chefs make nasty food. Bad cops get innocent people arrested, or worse, shoot someone. There is a difference.


I don't disagree with this at all. But then we need to pay them more than $35,000 to start.

I mean that's like saying we only need Special Forces type caliber soldiers.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133441 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:59 am to
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You want the suspects, who would still be armed, to be out in public when they are confronted? And in a vehicle where a high speed pursuit puts even more innocent bystanders at risk?



If they are out in public the aren’t going to be walking around with rifles or shotguns. Also less likely to have access to more ammo.

And no one suggested trying to apprehend them in their vehicle.

Find them in a vulnerable area with as few bystanders around as possible and the execute the warrant.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296908 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:00 am to
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But then we need to pay them more than $35,000 to start.


I disagree. However many larger cities pay 60k just to start.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296908 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:01 am to
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My first thought: maybe I'm in the minoriry here, but I believe no-knock raids should not be legal, except for the most extreme circumstances


Absolutely. You better know 100% that a very dangerous and violent criminal is in that house.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58860 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:02 am to
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Should I just never go to the doctor?


I'm trying to figure out what this is a comparison to in this Houston story and can't.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10873 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:03 am to
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Update - Houston Chrom

You can back the blue all you want, but this cop is dirty. Couple bags of H found in the center console of his squad car. Lied on the warrant. Sketchy details on whether the guy in the house fired a shot. Cops can’t find his “informant” that supposedly bought H at the house.

This dude broke into a home, killed every living person and thing and got 4 of his fellow officers harmed on a complete lie.

That, in addition to the harm done to the residents, is the story here. There are shite doctors as someone pointed out as well as shite teachers, cops, etc. Cops are more dangerous when dirty, however. That this guy was a POS is irrelevant to whether "whitey/USA is racist!" but rather that we have cronyism/a system where dirty cops can do dirty things to anyone.

This is a story about oversight and our justice system, not "cops hate black people!" Justice will likely be done, and we should all hope to God it does.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296908 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:06 am to
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But the idea this makes even the entire HPD corrupt is laughable.


Just end the war on drugs, most of these activities will go away.

The WoD created an "us vs them" atmosphere regarding citizens and cops.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25848 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:19 am to
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No knock raids are unconstitutional and should not be an option in all but the most extreme circumstances IMO. There’s no reason for them other than giving power tripping Boys in Blue an excuse to use their tacticool military surplus toys


Come on, man. It's to protect evidence...can't give them time to flush the dope...Duh!



(I'm firmly against no-knocks.)
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