re: Houston Drug dealing attemped cop killers didn’t do anything update:murder charged to cop

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In theory, yea. Unfortunately these raids are at the wrong address lots of times.

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Yea, they happen, but not usually when the people executing the warrant are the same people that were involved in drug buys from the house. We'll find out pretty quickly whether this was a mistaken address.

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but not usually when the people executing the warrant are the same people that were involved in drug buys from the house.

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Not always true. Particularly at night, when most houses in the area look alike

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Not always true. Particularly at night, when most houses in the area look alike

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Right. It's not always true. It's just unlikely. And this looks like it happened before 5 p.m., so it would have been daylight.

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you all assume race and are wrong and I'm the problem?

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Look at the neighborhood, Nancy.

Just reacting to the video that the guys defending the police posted. It clearly shows four cops come into an empty room through the front door. One shoots the charging dog, the male perp comes around the corner and shoots the cop who killed his dog, then the woman comes out to pick up the shotgun. She then gets shot by the other three cops. Then the guy shoots the other three guys. Their boss comes to the door, and the man shoots him.

If they were buying from the lady, I'm sure the police would have said that, and their animation would have her already in the room. From watching the video, the second, third, and fourth cop, may have taken cover, and perps may not have known they were the front room. Hard to believe the lady would come over to the shot cop to take his gun, knowing three other cops could be pointing guns at her.

If someone that bought from me comes in uninvited and shoots my dog (the way the video portrays it), I'd probably shoot him. I don't care whether he yells police or not. If I'm a dealer he knows I've got junk, and money. He could be there to rob me.

That's why I don't get them sending the narcs for the arrest. The video shows at least nine narcs, the first one with a shotgun, to serve a warrant. Sounds like a scene from Leon The Professional.

This sounds like another case of cops looking for a reason to play army. This couple was likely a couple of junkies selling a little on the side to fund their own habit, and could have just been arrested when they walked out of their house in broad daylight. Maybe the cops identified themselves, but there have been more than a few cases where they have not, and the residents assumed it was a home invasion and shot back. Their "arsenal" of a couple of shotguns and a 22 pistol can probably be found in half the homes in American, and doesn't really fit that of professional drug dealers afraid of being robbed by customers or other dealers. I am a old fart, don't use drugs, and have never been in trouble with the law, but I don't trust any statement made by the police.

Not replying directly to EA6B ...

To all the posters who are saying it was a plain clothes buy operation and the other cops were waiting outside to conduct the search after the 1st 4 narcs made the buy ... One of them was carrying a shotgun. Do you let a guy in your house holding a 12 ga. to score? Maybe it was sawn off, had no stock and was hidden under his plain clothess, but that seems unlikely to me.

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. . . just playing devil's advocate.

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That's "angel's advocate."

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In my head and this is completely without any facts, there’s 2 plain clothes that knock and try to buy. With a team of 4 or whatever hidden. So they answer the door and only see the 2 people they know, with everyone else out of sight.

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Highly unlikely that's what happened. They already bought from the house twice. There's no need to do it again. These guys were likely part of the narcotics division and were labeled as "undercover" by the news because they were wearing jeans. Undercover officers execute search warrants all the time, but it doesn't mean they're undercover when they are doing it.

In all likelihood, this was an ordinary search warrant (not a no knock warrant like people are assuming). You typically don't execute no knock warrants during the day time because: (1) you risk detection before you're able to kick the door in, and (2) you're less likely to catch whoever is inside the house off guard. These are usually done at night when you hope the occupants are in bed sleeping and you can detain them before they can destroy evidence or reach a gun.