re: Horrible dash cam footage shows drunk douche bag ram into a car at 100+ MPH

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Modern trucks do not accelerate, brake or handle poorly. To say they do as a reason to rate them poorly for safety is laughable.

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Compared to a car, particularly a car designed with an eye toward performance even a 2019 truck has poor chassis dynamics and brakes and accelerates slowly. That is the main reason you I never see a truck at the track on hot lap days.

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Add in stability control, traction control etc along with all the airbags devised by man and you have an incredibly safe vehicle.

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Cars have all this as well and they have an easier time overcoming physics in order for SC and TC to work effectively. Galileo got this a few years ago.

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Saw a 2010, note 9 years old now, Suburban get hit in the drivers door at 60MPH and the guy lived. Won't happen in a car.

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But it has happened plenty of times in cars. Even so it is only anecdotal and the IIHS driver death rates bear out that small cars are statistically safer than pickups and larger SUV. As an example of anecdotal accidents look at this headon between a Mini and a pickup.

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Cars are safer my arse

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Again the largest difference is in active safety and the ability to avoid accidents which cars have over PUs and large SUVs in spades, if you con't see that then you have never driven each of them near their limits. Even in accidents the IIHS stats bear our smaller cars are better they even beat larger cars. You have to keep in mind stats like this are from a wide range of fatal accidents and there certainly are some (like the crash in this case) where the truck is clearly more survivable but on the whole trucks simply aren't and that doesn't even take into account the accidents that can be avoided in a car that can not in a truck.

If you need to convince yourself they are safer to justify your choice feel free but you aren't going to convince someone that has spent years digging onto the accident statistics.

You must be ready when your time comes.

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Many years ago when I started to drive, interstates were a pleasure to be on. Now I’m looking around like I’m riding in a potential death trap.

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There are way more cars on the road now and most of the operators are working a mobile device when they should be concentrating on driving. I used to love driving period. Now I hate it. Too many people not paying attention have ruined that experience.

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So the truck at, say, 110 and the car at, say 65.. results in the equivalent of a 45 MPH crash into a parked car, more or less.

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The car was not at 65. It was braking because of cars in front of it.

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The unit imprints gps speed on video and time and date stamped

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So, uh, any way to turn that feature off?

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The Constitution?

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You're not paying attention. That only applies to white people that meet the groupthink approval.

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Even a couple people look into the car and act like there is no one there.

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Look close and you can see the body lying in what would have been the rear seat area. The people looking can see there was no hope.

Wonder if she even glanced at the rear view or was just there one second and gone the next. Damn.

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So, uh, any way to turn that feature off?

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I know you were joking but unless you are in an area where there are no distance references to compare to the video and accident reconstruction expert (or anyone with a calculator and the inclination to verify the reference distances) could determine your speed.

Things like Botts dots, weep holes, dashed lane striping, expansion joints the in the road and barriers, etc can all be used. Failing the visibility of those most any immobile landmarks can be used to calculate speed pretty accurately.

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I'll never understand how the drunk drivers almost always survive these with little to no scratches. Hate it.

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Think the article said he was on drugs at the time.

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That completely depends on the mode of the accident. I spent 20+ years reading and dealing with the physics of passenger vehicle collisions and I will take a car every time over a pickup or large SUV. While we have always had a large SUV or pickup as a third vehicle I only drive it when the situation merits mainly due to safety.

The biggest disparity between a pickup/large SUV and a smaller particularly a performance car is in actuve safety. Pickups and large SUVs accelerate, stop and handle very poorly compared to almost every smaller car. Active safety is what allows a good driver to avoid accidents and or reduce the force vectors. Avoiding an accident is always preferable to surviving an accident.

Now in this particular accident, a large SUV/PU would have had significantly higher survivability and if we knew what sort of deadly crash we might be in we could choose the best vehicle. The statistics show that smaller cars are indeed safer than particularly PUs. To each their own but I will always choose a vehicle with a high emphasis on active safety as well as SOA passive safety. I simply put greater emphasis on avoiding accidents than the highest structural integrity which PU really don't have in spades anyway.

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Everything you said is true. But, as this video clearly illustrates, you can be the safest driver on the road, with the best equipped car from a safety standpoint, and none of that matters because you have no control what the other idiots on the road will do.