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re: Homeowner’s Insurance is collapsing in LA - UPC gone, Cajun now gone - rates up 40%

Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:08 am to
Posted by OGhunter777
Member since Mar 2012
901 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:08 am to
Yeah I just got non renewed by progressive …. Getting quotes now. I think I’m gonna sell my house. Insurance will be more than house note
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11298 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:19 am to
Get Gordon! He can help.

Plantiff attys see nothing wrong with this situation.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8180 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:53 am to
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Yeah I just got non renewed by progressive


Where are you located?

I just recieved my renewal from progressive. up 14 %. Was expecting worse. 2500 hurricane deductible
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11298 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:40 pm to
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This state sucks so badly


Yep... Huey Long and his cronies showed big business who was boss for decades. Businesses went to Texas instead.

Now plantiff attys are killing the insurance market. Insurance companies are like customers walking away from an unfair car deal.
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1178 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Property taxes are extremely low in LA.



Not in Orleans Parish. Someone's gotta pay for LaToya's vacations!

ETA: "Why don't you just live in Jefferson?"
Because there is NOTHING for sale there and no I am not commuting from freaking Covington or Slidell
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Tommy Noble
Member since May 2013
701 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:39 pm to
Just checked realtor.com and there’s quite a bit for sale in JP lol. Not just shitty little mid century 2 bedrooms out in Kenner either.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10787 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:26 am to
I'm thinking about not renewing flood. We're on a high point, never flooded. Tired of the max 17% increase annually over the last 2 years. They won't stop increasing it so it's more out of principle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465365 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:35 am to
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They are very aware that a major storm could very well hit TX the next year and have calculated that into their rates. I imagine the risk teams at major insurance co's are some of the sharpest people in the room

The problem is, they haven't been.

Rates were way too low for too long and insurance companies couldn't handle the claims from Laura, Delta, Ida, etc.

So companies have the issue of taking the same risk to write a competitive policy or have an "overpriced" policy that's more solvent (which few will buy). It's not an enticing market for insurance companies to risk losing your entire company when you can continue to operate elsewhere for a profit.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12626 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:42 am to
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Insurance companies are aware where storms are likely to hit and what the cost might be. Getting a storm or not getting a storm in a given year(s) shouldn't make much difference in assessing risk of an area. They are very aware that a major storm could very well hit TX the next year and have calculated that into their rates. I imagine the risk teams at major insurance co's are some of the sharpest people in the room.

This is a pretty bold claim to make immediately after multiple insurance companies get placed into receivership.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
59055 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:03 am to
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Insurance companies are aware where storms are likely to hit and what the cost might be. Getting a storm or not getting a storm in a given year(s) shouldn't make much difference in assessing risk of an area. They are very aware that a major storm could very well hit TX the next year and have calculated that into their rates. I imagine the risk teams at major insurance co's are some of the sharpest people in the room. And right now they think the risk is so great in LA and FL that they don't even want to collect premiums from homeowners.


One storm yes. The problem is when you have four major storms hit in basically one year. Laura, Delta, Zeta, Ida; all four of these occurred between 8/20/2020 and 8/29/21.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2635 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:22 am to
Might want to look into how much it would cost if you decided to restart with NFIP.

Last year, we were told that if we dropped NFIP to go private then at some point return, our new NFIP premiums would jump massively as we would no longer be "grandfathered" in the old rates.

This is in FL but i would think it would be true wherever NFIP is used.
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:28 am to
You are already subsidizing flood with your tax dollars. It's generally a good idea to keep it. Most flood claims (not the most dollars, but number) come from weird shite like your neighbor clogs up the storm drain and you get 1/2 of water in two rooms that fricks your house up, not sheet flow flood waters like Katrina or 2016.
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
1359 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:35 am to
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Might want to look into how much it would cost if you decided to restart with NFIP.

Last year, we were told that if we dropped NFIP to go private then at some point return, our new NFIP premiums would jump massively as we would no longer be "grandfathered" in the old rates.

This is in FL but i would think it would be true wherever NFIP is used.
There is no such thing as grandfathered rates anymore. Everyone is likely to see an increase. The difference is whether you have an existing policy, or a new policy. An existing policy rate increase is limited by a certain percentage increase each year until the new rate is reached. A new policy pays the new rate from the beginning. Make no mistake, everyone will be paying the new Risk 2.0 rates sooner, rather than later.

Sad state of affairs in S LA that it's now prudent to shop insurance rates (HO Wind and Flood) before considering purchasing a new home. These price increases may now make or break your budget for a new home.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10673 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:10 am to
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keep all their pregnancies
How can you support murdering unborn babies? Plenty of good people had shitty parents. Plenty of good parents with terrible kids. You’re proof.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10787 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:10 am to
Yeah I have a call in to the agent that administers my flood to see what my rate will top out at. They actually called me back to try to win me back on home/auto. Will see how that goes
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53592 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:12 am to
Maybe we need to rethink what we did (and Louisiana’s role in it) to cause global warming and the sea level rise. We did it to ourselves
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 9:20 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148113 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:13 am to
It's funny when Louisiana residents call other states shitholes
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148113 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:14 am to
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Plenty of good parents with terrible kids. You’re proof.
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
3543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:16 am to
But, but...we have an insurance commissioner!
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5575 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:19 am to
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There is no such thing as grandfathered rates anymore. Everyone is likely to see an increase.


Spot on, I've been sounding this alarm for over a year now and was told by the resident insurance agents on this board to shush as I'm bringing too much light to their (carrier/agent) little game. But essentially it involves 2 things that a carrier will do on top of just the base rates: #1 Increase your coverage A to $100k or more than it's actual cost to rebuild, and B) apply additional factors at renewal to the base rates that you've never seen before. While the LDI has to approve a carrier's base rates, those "factors" behind and in addition to the rates can be extremely arbitrary. Agents love it because it's more commission to them of course. Talking to you Chadboy 4 posts.
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