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re: Home Depot about to be sued. False advertising
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:19 pm to LanierSpots
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:19 pm to LanierSpots
People don't know that a 2x4 isn't 2x4?
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:20 pm to AlxTgr
Jesus Christ. Interested in taking a case against pipe manufacturers for sending me falsely advertised 3" pipe?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:21 pm to nguyt518
quote:
S4S
Just found out a few months ago what it stands for and I felt like an idiot for not being able to figure it out.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:23 pm to LanierSpots
From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel link...
quote:
Asked whether it was coincidence that three different men found the same sort of issue with lumber first at Menards and then at Home Depot, and then all decided to go to McGuire Law, Turin said he couldn’t comment.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:24 pm to AlxTgr
I remember the first time my wife decided to do a home improvement project and I tried to explain this to her. She was convinced I didn't know how to read a measuring tape, so I took her to HD and grabbed a tape measure and let her wonder around measuring everything. 15 minutes later all I get is an "Oh"
In regards to the Lowes' settlement, I think there was more to the fact that the lumber wasn't a true 2"*4"; I recall reading something that their lumber was smaller than the industry standard (may have even been as much as 1/8") which lead the experts to believe that they didn't start w/ true 2*4s. In other words, the issue was instead of having 1 1/2", it was coming out as 1 1/4" or 1 3/8".
Don't know where I read it, just know after I did I stopped buying building products form them.
In regards to the Lowes' settlement, I think there was more to the fact that the lumber wasn't a true 2"*4"; I recall reading something that their lumber was smaller than the industry standard (may have even been as much as 1/8") which lead the experts to believe that they didn't start w/ true 2*4s. In other words, the issue was instead of having 1 1/2", it was coming out as 1 1/4" or 1 3/8".
Don't know where I read it, just know after I did I stopped buying building products form them.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:25 pm to LanierSpots
This is common knowledge for a lot of people, but do you think the average person knows the actual dimensions of a 4x4?
According to a friend who use to manage a hardware store, it is amazing what the average person does not know, when it comes to just about anything that can be purchased at a hardware store, however; I would think that most people who are going by a 4x4 would know this.
With that said, Home Depot is advertising as it is so customers who think otherwise are assuming. Which is the argument I would think HD would make.. Maybe?
According to a friend who use to manage a hardware store, it is amazing what the average person does not know, when it comes to just about anything that can be purchased at a hardware store, however; I would think that most people who are going by a 4x4 would know this.
With that said, Home Depot is advertising as it is so customers who think otherwise are assuming. Which is the argument I would think HD would make.. Maybe?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:27 pm to kywildcatfanone
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People don't know that a 2x4 isn't 2x4?
I worked at Lowe's in the flooring department, a special kind of idiot came into the flooring department one and wanted to price out some hardwood flooring for their movable home. She picked out the flooring she wanted but the price was out of their ball park. Then the idiot asked me to price the floor using 2x4x8 because it was the same thing. I begrudgingly worked up the quote and she ran to the manager stating that I was over charging her because I worked the dimensions up at 3.5" wide and not 4". So there are a lot of idiot that have no idea how lumber is measured. You would be surprised how many think they can wrap their house in as they call it "magnolium rug" since it says vinyl flooring and it has to be the same as vinyl siding.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:28 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:No, but I'd like to look into a class action against trauma centers for the Trauma Team Level II charge of $23,000
Jesus Christ. Interested in taking a case against pipe manufacturers for sending me falsely advertised 3" pipe?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:28 pm to OweO
Now, as a lumber yard owner we can get our hands on actual size lumber. It is more expensive and a special order. I keep some instock for 3 remodelers that specialize in working on older homes.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:30 pm to LanierSpots
This is common knowledge and simply the way lumber is cut.
If you buy lumber you should know this
If you buy lumber you should know this
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:30 pm to LanierSpots
I realized that the lumber didn't measure to the listed specs the first time I purchased lumber. You know what I did? I shut my mouth, and acted like I already knew, so I didn't look like a pussy that knew nothing about construction.
Besides, you aren't buying wood for the volume, you are buying for the common size. As long as the pieces are consistent with each other, who the hell cares? It's not like you are going to go to the local lumber yard and they have the real deal 4x4s.
I'm going to go to McDonald's and sue them for my 1/4 pounder not weighing enough after it gets cooked.
Besides, you aren't buying wood for the volume, you are buying for the common size. As long as the pieces are consistent with each other, who the hell cares? It's not like you are going to go to the local lumber yard and they have the real deal 4x4s.
I'm going to go to McDonald's and sue them for my 1/4 pounder not weighing enough after it gets cooked.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:31 pm to Perrydawg
Framing lumber flooring? Classy AF
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:32 pm to The Mick
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I thought that was common knowledge. A 2x4 isn't actually 2x4.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:34 pm to LanierSpots
1/2 CORD OF FIREWOOD FOR $$$
Now that is false advertisement when they are selling 18" x 4' x 4'. "Cord" is a cubic measurement of 4' x 4' x 4' so 1/2 would be 2'x4'x4'. Now if they call it a "face cord"...then correct.
Now that is false advertisement when they are selling 18" x 4' x 4'. "Cord" is a cubic measurement of 4' x 4' x 4' so 1/2 would be 2'x4'x4'. Now if they call it a "face cord"...then correct.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:35 pm to Displaced
I said she lived in a movable home as she called it what do you expect, she thought a little sanding, a little stain and poly and she was golden. I have many stories about the idiots I dealt with at Lowe's and some who were general contractors.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:38 pm to LanierSpots
Something tells me these guys were interior decorators
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:43 pm to ItTakesAThief
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This is common knowledge and simply the way lumber is cut.
quote:
If you buy lumber you should know this
I get your point and agree 100% with you. But I am looking at the bigger picture here and the root of this entire bullshite
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If you buy lumber you should know this
OK, lets pretend for a second that you dont know this. What is your reaction? Do you go back to the store ask for assistance then do a little research? No. You call a lawyer and go to court because what ever you are building is not going to be dead nuts. Now considering you dont know how lumber is measured, I cant imagine you are doing too big of a complex home improvement project
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:49 pm to mikelbr
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Contractors and builders know a 4x4 isn't actually 4x4.
Anyone who's ever done anything involving lumber knows this.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:53 pm to LSUballs
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Not many people have built anything with wood the last 50 years
My grandparents were married 67 years. Papa always said he got married based on love, but kept the marriage based on his wood.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:56 pm to Havoc
This is either fake or won't get past summary judgment.
In law school we read a case where a builder ordered some 2x4s and the lumber company supplied boards that measured actual 2 inches by 4 inches. The builder sued for breach of contract and won.
In law school we read a case where a builder ordered some 2x4s and the lumber company supplied boards that measured actual 2 inches by 4 inches. The builder sued for breach of contract and won.
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