re: ‘Holy grail of shipwrecks’: recovery of 18th-century Spanish ship could begin in April

Because they had it last before their shite was sunk?

Sunken treasure from that era is a huge gray area.

Is it the property of the people who stole it, the people who it was stolen from, or the people who found it?

I’ll go with the people who found it 300 years later.

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The ship and all of its shite belongs to Spain.

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and what makes you say that because i dont think history says this...

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I’d volunteer to just work for that salvage mission. I’d assume they will be moving in & out of Cartagena, Colombia.

That place is fricking awesome, most beautiful women in the world between there & Medellin, and they love American Gringos, lol

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That is a frickin' fact! I've said it many many times. Only Tel Aviv compares, and they don't love gringos there so ...

My Colombian lust was Claudia (pronounced Cloud-dee-ah) she introduced me to my first threesome with her and her roommate/girlfriend in Cartagena. Incredible three months .... man it was great being young back then.

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“There has been this persistent view of the galleon as a treasure trove. We want to turn the page on that,” Alhena Caicedo, director of the Colombian Institute of Anthropology and History, said. “We aren’t thinking about treasure. We’re thinking about how to access the historical and archeological information at the site.”

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This is a damn lie. The ship is literally a treasure ship. It's what the Spanish did back then.

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Sarah Cameron TYFYS

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Another casualty of the Pete Davidson phenomenon.

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We aren’t thinking about treasure. We’re thinking about how to access the historical and archeological information at the site.”

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My understanding is indigenous groups are claiming the gold was stolen from the natives by the spanish. Spanish are claiming it because it was their ship. Other countries are claiming it because its on their coastline , and US group is claiming it because they found it.

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Can they not agree to a 5 or 6 way split? Seems fair to me

Mel Fischer had to go all the way to the US Supreme Court to keep what he found. Even though he spent the time and money (along with investors) and lost relatives in the process.

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You first survey the booty, re-bury it.

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Or just don’t tell any government and go to a private equity group to fund extraction of the goods. Split the proceeds quietly. Leave a little bit at the wreck then say “hey you found it”

Kind of like when you find 50 kilos of coke washed up on the beach and report 5 kilos to the cops

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What claim would they have to this?

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The mines in the Andes.

But if it weren’t for the romans would that knowledge of mining made its way through Europe and eventually the Americas?

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The Romans were well known as specialists in hydraulic mining. To expose and release gold deposits from the earth, they used hydraulic pressure. Miners would carve aqueducts into the rock, which were used to transport water from the nearby creeks and rivers. Then the flow of water would fill the excavated cavities, causing pressure streams strong enough to pierce and break up the thick rock walls.

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Hmm, old world inflation and increasing money supply.

We have learned nothing.

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The influx of gold contributed to Spain’s relative decline and low living standards in future centuries. The Spanish spent their gold on commodities from other countries, without producing much in terms of exports themselves. Because consumer goods could easily be imported, there was little incentive to produce goods and undertake the necessary investments in infrastructure and develop the domestic economy, particularly in respect of investing in technology. When the flows of gold dried up, the Spanish economy was left lagging behind that of its European neighbours, which led ultimately to a decline in the Spanish empire.

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