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‘Holy grail of shipwrecks’: recovery of 18th-century Spanish ship could begin in April

Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:54 am
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:54 am
‘Holy grail of shipwrecks’: recovery of 18th-century Spanish ship could begin in April

Since the Colombian navy discovered the final resting place of the Spanish galleon San José in 2015, its location has remained a state secret, the wreck – and its precious cargo – left deep under the waters of the Caribbean.

Efforts to conserve the ship and recover its precious cargo have been caught up in a complicated string of international legal disputes, with Colombia, Spain, Bolivian Indigenous groups and a US salvage company laying claim to the wreck, and the gold, silver and emeralds onboard thought to be worth as much as $17bn.

When Colombia tried to auction off part of the bounty to fund the colossal costs of recovering the ship, Unesco and the country’s high courts intervened.

But eight years after the discovery, officials now say they are pushing politics to one side and could begin lifting artefacts from the “holy grail of shipwrecks” as soon as April.

“There has been this persistent view of the galleon as a treasure trove. We want to turn the page on that,” Alhena Caicedo, director of the Colombian Institute of Anthropology and History, said. “We aren’t thinking about treasure. We’re thinking about how to access the historical and archeological information at the site.”

The San José was returning to Europe with treasures to help fund the war of the Spanish succession when it was sunk by a British squadron in 1708, close to the Caribbean port city of Cartagena.

Historians say the wreck could help reveal much about the Spanish empire at the height of its power – and the shared, overlapping histories of Europe and Latin America.

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Posted by lovethetigers7
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:57 am to
How long until this gets made into a new season of Outer Banks?
Posted by AkronTiger
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:59 am to
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We aren’t thinking about treasure. We’re thinking about how to access the historical and archeological information at the site


Right...
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:59 am to
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Outer Banks


Sarah Cameron TYFYS
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:59 am to
The real plot twist would be it included in oak island.
Posted by Bamawaterfowl
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:03 am to
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thought to be worth as much as $17bn


Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:04 am to
you find something of value, you keep quiet
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:04 am to
Chester Copperpot can eat shite.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:24 am to
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“We aren’t thinking about treasure. We’re thinking about how to access the historical and archeological information at the site.”


mmmhmmm right.
Posted by Westbank111
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:32 am to
I’d volunteer to just work for that salvage mission. I’d assume they will be moving in & out of Cartagena, Colombia.

That place is fricking awesome, most beautiful women in the world between there & Medellin, and they love American Gringos, lol
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:41 am to
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Bolivian Indigenous groups


Lol these choads certainly ain't getting shite
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:19 am to
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Bolivian Indigenous groups



What claim would they have to this?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:35 am to
They’re going to start salvage operations only to find that a 10 ton giant squid has made his home inside the ship. And he doesn’t like visitors.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:36 am to
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What claim would they have to this?


My understanding is indigenous groups are claiming the gold was stolen from the natives by the spanish. Spanish are claiming it because it was their ship. Other countries are claiming it because its on their coastline , and US group is claiming it because they found it.
Posted by Blutarsky
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:07 am to
If I ever found anything, I would have to keep it secret and slowly sell the artifacts on the black market.

Everyone says it’s their property.
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:07 am to
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The wreck’s precise location is a state secret to protect the site from looters, but Colombian authorities have revealed that it is 600 metres (2,000ft) below sea level – too far for divers to reach.

That’s misdirection it’s actually around 4,200 feet deep, water temperature at depth approximately 37 degrees f on a sandy seabed. It's approximate location has been know since the 80’s.

The cargo manifest was well documented and this ship is loaded. There are three or four more like it offshore Columbia.

Columbia or Spain will prevail in international court for ownership (my guess Columbia) the private salvage company is shite out of luck, case law is against them.

Full recovery cost ship and treasure is between $25 to $50 million, depending on how much is buried and requires dredging to uncover. Time consuming to do without damaging artifacts.

Marine archaeologists aren’t very good at recovery Ops they’ll need to hire professionals with experience doing that, the issue being they destroy things more often than undamged recovery.

If you go make sure you’re fully paid in advance, and leave the site when the money runs out.
Posted by Smoke Ring
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:09 am to
Spain stole Latin America's silver and gold for centuries, maybe the little people can get some back and it will solve all of their problems
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:16 am to
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I’d assume they will be moving in & out of Cartagena, Colombia.

That place is fricking awesome, most beautiful women in the world between there & Medellin, and they love American Gringos, lol


I'll be spending 8 days between both citie, come June, and I can't wait.
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:20 am to
The ship and all of its shite belongs to Spain.
Posted by Liberator
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Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:22 am to
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you find something of value, you keep quiet


OR

You first survey the booty, re-bury it.

Then you claim to have found a near-empty treasure chest that has "historical, archaeological value."



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