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re: Holding young kids back a year/Repeating a grade.

Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:59 pm to
If your kid has to be retained, then the earlier the better. Honestly, it would have been best if it were kindergarten. Your child is learning the foundational skills to build his entire education upon. Whatever skills he doesn't master, he'll never get the chance to go backward and repeat learning them. As a result, he's likely to struggle the entirety of his academic career as he carries that gap forward. Academic gaps don't tend to close on their own; they mostly widen over time.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:04 pm to
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1st graders have homework?

Oh yeah. My first grader daughter has homework every day except Friday.
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
809 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:06 pm to
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Take it up with the LSU system buts that’s their scale for that age. And children that fall behind at this school get brought into programs during normal class hours to help them in areas that they need work in, while the rest of the kids are outside playing or building blocks.

I’ll stay where I’m at, gl to you.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 8:29 pm
Posted by LSU Jonno
Huntsville, AL
Member since Feb 2008
605 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:16 pm to
Statistics show holding kids back is not the answer. Get him checked for dyslexia. It sounds scary, it’s not. Get some targeted therapy and you’ll be golden.

Posted by hayden7cub
Mississippi
Member since Mar 2019
397 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:21 pm to
My dad was a college baseball coach and held me back in kindergarten. I have an April birthday so I was 19 when I graduated. He did it strictly for sports reasons and it worked. I played college baseball and probably wouldn’t have otherwise.
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1664 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:44 pm to
I would hold him back. I’m considering holding my second grade boy back for being in trouble constantly. He’s very upset by the possibility. His friendships are much stronger now than they were in first grade.
He’s incredibly smart, but he struggles to sit still and is emotionally immature. In other words, he’s a little boy. IMO, the current educational system is unfair to boys. They are every bit as smart as girls, but they are emotionally immature by comparison. We have increased educational requirements for younger ages, and that disproportionately harms boys who simply can’t stay focused as long as the girls on average. Hold him back and give him some time to mature. I wish I had done it last year.
Posted by WhoDatKrewe
Member since Jan 2023
72 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:49 pm to
This. In Texas, tons of loser parents are holding the kids back so they are bigger and more developed for sports and can be one of the bigger kids in their grade. Asinine. They are not concerned about the kids academic performance like you are contemplating.

When we see those parents that did it for sports , We can’t help but roll our eyes. PS None of them made it anywhere of value in sports from what I’ve seen.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
3041 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:54 pm to
Holding a kid back in kindergarten or 1st grade has nothing to with sports. Teachers don’t suggest this because they think it’s funny, they do it because they know the child and what’s best for it. It’s hard to hear but if you trust the school, trust the teachers.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9790 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:55 pm to
What is the reason for your reluctance?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:08 pm to
1st grade

quote:

really start pushing homework


What the hell?
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63770 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:15 am to
It's certainly been a while, but I don't remember getting actual "grades" in first grade and don't remember having any homework then either

And I went to a private school that was thought of as more difficult than our local public ones.

Has my memory failed me or have things changed that much in the last 25-30 years?

As far as the OP, kids still got held back in K-5 &1st grade when I was that age and I don't think it hampered them tremendously. Better to do it earlier than later that's for sure
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 1:17 am
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2909 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:34 am to
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Holding a kid back in kindergarten or 1st grade has nothing to with sports. Teachers don’t suggest this because they think it’s funny, they do it because they know the child and what’s best for it. It’s hard to hear but if you trust the school, trust the teachers.


In my experience, teachers are much quicker to recommend holding boys back than girls, specifically because they assume they all need more emotional maturity. I also noticed they make a blanket assumption for all boys, rather than a specific child.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
5021 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:51 am to
Glad we could save 1 life and cancel in person learning...




Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26265 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:55 am to
My oldest has a May birthday and in Kindergarten now. Almost every one of his peers with a May or June birthday is in the grade below and he has kids a full year older than him in his class.
From a physical, social, and emotional standpoint, I’d love to hold him back where I think he would fit in better. However, he excels academically and there is no way I could justify him repeating kindergarten redo sight words when he’s been reading full books for over a year.
So basically, there’s no right or wrong answer, it’s totally dependent on the individual child.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:10 am to
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My oldest has a May birthday and in Kindergarten now. Almost every one of his peers with a May or June birthday is in the grade below and he has kids a full year older than him in his class.
From a physical, social, and emotional standpoint, I’d love to hold him back where I think he would fit in better. However, he excels academically and there is no way I could justify him repeating kindergarten redo sight words when he’s been reading full books for over a year.
So basically, there’s no right or wrong answer, it’s totally dependent on the individual child.



then hold him back in 1st or 2nd grade. think long term not single point in time. he will fall further behind maturity wise just an fyi
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:26 am to
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This. In Texas, tons of loser parents are holding the kids back so they are bigger and more developed for sports and can be one of the bigger kids in their grade. Asinine. They are not concerned about the kids academic performance like you are contemplating.

When we see those parents that did it for sports , We can’t help but roll our eyes. PS None of them made it anywhere if value in sports from what I’ve seen.



this is such a bitch arse take from people who cant see the big picture

1) who cares if they play ball after high school, if you think that is what its about...dunno what to tell you

2) high school sports are a developmental tool all to themselves and can effect confindence and leadership for a lifteime amongst other things

in the grand scheme, holding a kid back, no matter the age and no matter the reasoning, is about giving the kid the best chance to succeed in whatever they choose to do post high school.

why is it a good thing

1) maturity- it is never a bad thing to have a more mature kid when they graduate high school and despite what you may think a 19 year old graduating hs is much much much better situated to take on the world than a 17 year old graduating. no matter if that is college or just the work force. being more mature than your peers sets you up for success no matter what age and situation.

2) guidance- if you are good parent and have a healthy relationship with the kid and in the home(especially if the nuclear family is still intact) you are getting one more year with the kid during crucial years to guide him down the right path. notice i didnt say control because if you are just controlling then you in for a world of hurt when they leave no matter what. but if you can guide them down the right path, another year of this guidance can pay huge dividends later in life

3) protection- just look at the current events at LSU....tell me you wouldnt want one more year to protect your kid by having them in your home.

4) academic and athletic success- giving the kid 1 more year to study for the act/sat and to allow them to be ready to take on dual enrollment or other college level courses is only going to set them up for success later. athletically giving them 1 more year to mature never ever ever hurts them. ever, no matter what. Perfect example, look at the kids coming out of Barbe Baseball. Glen always always suggest that kids be held back as much as possible in elementary school, always suggest atleast once no matter what age they started so long as they will still elgible. why is this? because in his expierence the older kids are more prepared physically and mentally and he has less trouble with them on and off the field. This past year, every senior except 1(he has 3.2)had a 3.5 or above and was going to graduate with some form of honors. every senior that actually played on the field, got a college scholarship & some form of academic scholarship(either topps or some other). the backup catcher got scholly to southern and the 1 kid who didnt play due to injury had a 4.2 and had highest topps award and is goign for engineering at a state school.

barbe isnt some special case, but they have developed a system that holds kids accountable and teaches them how to work hard on and off the field. they have developed a system that allows those most mature to flourish.

i bring up barbe because Glen is notorious for telling parents to hold kids back and guess what he is 10000% correct on this issue.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5610 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:30 am to
This is rampade in sports.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:04 am to
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This is rampade in sports.


not like yall think. you can only do in elementary or you lose a year of elgibility. you also can not turn 19 before august 1st of your senior year.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17361 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:32 am to
absolutely do it
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1531 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:41 am to
No parents ever regret holding a child back whether its for maturity reasons or school struggles. The younger the better so its less of a big deal friend wise. If he's struggling now he'll constantly struggle until 3rd grade where he'll start feeling stupid. Once kids "accepts" that their not as smart as everyone else it becomes their personality.

Just hold him back. You'll be glad you did.
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