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re: Holding young kids back a year/Repeating a grade.

Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:35 pm to
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I don't want to sound insensitive, but who the hell wants to work all day and then come home and see your wife & child pulling their hair out at the kitchen table while they review sight words, vocabulary and math/word problems?

Who wants to then "take their turn" with the kid after the wife is "at the end of her rope" because your 6 yr old who's already spent 7hrs/day at school then has to come home and struggle with their Mom for another 1-2 hrs every flipping night? The household is upside-down and everyone's exhausted by bedtime.


exactly...that sucks. especially as they get into sports. having to stop homework go to practice and then come home and try and finish at 830 at night........been there and done that....no thank you. sucks.


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Take it from personal experience, you will not regret holding back a 1st grader.


same. I do not regret it 1 bit. in fact my middle one that we did hold back is now in 4th. best kid i could ever ask for and if he makes a 97 is devestated. great athlete and all around kid.

its funny cause he wants to be held back again for sports reasons after seeing all the 14u kids playing in 12u PG events on tv...had to put my foot down on that one. DIdnt mind paying for 1 extra year...but 2...no thanks
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17718 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:37 pm to
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My sons school pushes it hard so they can get another year of revenue out of folks.


My son was one of the youngest in his grade but always excelled academically, straight A's from K-12th grade. My wife mentioned holding him back in an early grade and all I could think about was that extra year of tuition.

He was a big kid and good athlete. I kind of wished we would have because he would have been a stud on the football field at 18 years old.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14112 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:41 pm to
If its something that may remain a possibility moving forward, then I would do it now.

The older they are, the harder its going to be on the kid to watch all of their friends move on.


Its the ones who do it in 8th grade for sports that I always thought had lost their damn minds.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3487 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:41 pm to
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This is the OT, not Evangel Academy.


Thats Calvary Baptist now
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:42 pm to
I never had my son tested, he’s on the spectrum in some way (I’d guess a sensory processing disorder) or add…but we figured we’d just let him compensate like we all did growing up. I had extreme hyperactivity, but also hyper focus at times and I graduated LSU in physics (though I was terrible kid to have in class growing up)…I figured no telling what I would have been medicated…maybe ‘better’, maybe not. My wife seems to have closer to what my son has and she compensates amazingly…we’re probably terrible for doing so, but they pushed holding him back instead of treating the issues so frick it.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 2:52 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60781 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:53 pm to
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should have prolly did K twice and entered directly into 1st.
This was not an option. What was told us at the time was the the roster of kids in K MUST be in that years age range, which is being 5 on last day of September. Reading between the lines I can only assume it has to do with funding.

It was a few years back and I cant recall all the details, but it was mind blowing to me.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36844 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Its the ones who do it in 8th grade for sports that I always thought had lost their damn minds.


cant do 8th grade anymore or you lose a year of elgibility in hs

and honestly 8th isnt bad on the kids if they have been playing sports with thier actual age group and not the grade kids. seen this plenty of times before they passed the rule and they all were fine and had plenty of friends from sports day 1. everyone knew they were held back for being young and not because they were dumb. we were pumped to have them in our class for sports reasons alone plus it was more friends for us.

5th grade is the next best from a maturity standpoint, academics and sports.....but extremely hard on them emotionally and friends wise as they are not old enough to understand in many cases adn those kids will make fun of them.

next best is 1st or 2nd as they learn a good bit in those grade yet its not as big of a deal friend wise and they forget in 2 months.

k is most popular

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I never had my son tested, he’s on the spectrum in some way (I’d guess a sensory processing disorder) or add…but we figured we’d just let him compensate like we all did growing up. I had extreme hyperactivity, but also hyper focus at times and I graduated LSU in physics (though I was terrible kid to have in class growing up)…I figured no telling what I would have been medicated…maybe ‘better’, maybe not. My wife seems to have closer to what my son has and she compensates amazingly…we’re probably terrible for doing so, but they pushed holding him back instead of treating the issues so frick it.


the one i was talking about has a sensory disorder too, but it was more physical in that his extremities are not very sensitive..well werent. lots of PT helped that.

kid is smart as hell, but cant concentrate for shite if he doesnt take his medicine.
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
810 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:05 pm to
That much homework/grading at that age is excessive. My 1st and 2nd grader never have homework and still have the satisfactory/not satisfactory scale.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 3:06 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24907 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:41 pm to
Worked out well for Stetson Bennett!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36844 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:45 pm to
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That much homework/grading at that age is excessive. My 1st and 2nd grader never have homework and still have the satisfactory/not satisfactory scale.



lol wtf???

satisfactory/non satisfactory in 2nd grade??? dude find a new school. thats laughable

and yea have a bunch of homework sucks, but what the OP described is becuase they are playing catchup

but grading in 1st & 2nd is not excessive

should everyone get a trophy for spelling their name too?
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35801 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:50 pm to
Don’t do it. Research shows that

1. Reading deficiencies (probably the root problem) usually work themselves out by 4th grade.

2. Statistics show, that unless he skips a grade later, he is 50% more likely to drop out of high school.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2457 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:12 pm to
I turned 17 in April and graduated from high school in May. I was fortunate to be blessed with a high IQ and got by ok but I was not really ready for it at that time. Had I not started school so young I would have been better off in many respects.
I had a couple of classmates that were older than myself that had to repeat a grade and they then prospered. One of them becoming a highly reputed doctor even though he couldn't pass fourth grade and his mother held back him and his twin sister as well so that they stayed together.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5448 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:06 pm to
At 6, getting held back is almost inconsequential. F watching him struggle just keep afloat would be more difficult.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31731 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:10 pm to
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same. I do not regret it 1 bit. in fact my middle one that we did hold back is now in 4th. best kid i could ever ask for and if he makes a 97 is devestated. great athlete and all around kid.

its funny cause he wants to be held back again for sports reasons after seeing all the 14u kids playing in 12u PG events on tv...had to put my foot down on that one. DIdnt mind paying for 1 extra year...but 2...no thanks

I'm older than you but remember those days well. A young kid struggling in school puts the entire house in disarray.

I firmly believe holding mine back established two kids that were mature and they were comfortable in their own skin. They were leaders among their classmates, both heavily involved in sports. Both did dual-enrollment (another piece of advise I'd give any parent) in high school and earned scholarships at Bama. My oldest is in graduate school at UAB and my youngest has been accepted for graduate school at Bama.

So far so good!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:12 pm to
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No shock a chad has this take.



To be fair it could benefit his confidence in the long run although it might take an immediate hit
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22972 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:18 pm to
Having an assessment done would be a good idea. There are processing problems that can impact learning and retention of new information. Ruling those out before making a decision would be wise.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10696 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:19 pm to
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In the grand scheme of life one year more of, one year later in school is nothing
Fifteen years of school from pre-k to 12th in this scenario is ALOT of school.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13577 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:43 pm to
long-term kids who are held back perform at or below average
—tell that to my kid.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2935 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:53 pm to
Graduating high school at 17 isn’t a big deal if the kid’s ready. It wasn’t until the last 30 years or so that schools moved away from a December 31 cut-off date. One of my kids entered college at 17 and graduated recently with honors-it all depends on the kid.

BTW, this thread is a bit scary. Two posters referenced a 9/31/22 cut-off date. Ummm,,,,,,
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4030 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:55 pm to
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