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re: Here's a life lesson: Don't enroll into an online masters program at USC for $200K

Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:16 am to
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:16 am to
Let's not forget that not every Penny of those loans is going to tuition and books. These fools are using a lot of it for "living expenses" as well. Extending their college careers to avoid working and living off the loans while hitting the bars and restaurants every night. I see kids eating in the same nice places in BR I can now only afford after building a career. When I was in school, I worked a couple of part time jobs and ate Ramen Noodles and Mac n Cheese. A big night was when I ordered Dominos. But I managed to get out of school without debt.

What ever happened to the struggling college student?
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:18 am to
The schools should be the only authorized underwriter of a student loan.

This will make sure that they lend money to people actually studying things that allow them to payback the loan.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Member since Nov 2019
12993 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:19 am to
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Why is USC selling people a 200k degree that will never pay off?


Because people are willing to pay for it?
Posted by Witty_Username
Member since Jul 2021
622 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:24 am to
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Mcdonalds pay for managers is $63,829 per year starting


As a McDonald's manager, I bet she could also do a lot community mental health therapy. She'd get to do what she loves while making about 33% more money. The problem is that salary probably still wouldn't touch that $300k+ student loan debt since I bet the average interest rate is probably over 6%.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
12870 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:27 am to
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Sure, but you can't get a mortgage or auto loan for 300k on a 48k salary. Those have collateral that can at least be sold to offset some, if not all of the debt. Student loans should be scrutinized even more so, since they are based on presumably only a potential income.


I’m old enough to remember when liberals considered that a racists attitude. You can thank Obama for this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:30 am to
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Because people are willing to pay for it?


Most aren't. They're hoping for forgiveness.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25422 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:35 am to
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College tuition is a function of the government taking over the loans and subsidizing them and millions of idiots falling for the idea that they have to have a 4-year degree to be successful.

Just like in healthcare when you have a bureaucratic middle-man between the payer and the payee, prices go out of control.


Gots to pay for the various bloated administration positions, especially the uber important Diversity, Inequity, and Exclusion (DIE)* departments!




*purposefully written that way.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6331 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:37 am to
Yale does this too. They offer an online Physician Assistant program that cost $100k. More than double most state schools but you have the online convenience. You still have to do rotations in person but you won't have to relocate for classwork.
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
2204 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:37 am to
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There is no money in mental health.

If your kids ever talk about pursuing a career, put your foot down.


This is such a tricky subject. Because we need people in those professions and they're so important, yet because they're criminally underpaid, that it discourages many people (myself included) from making that a career.

Mental health professionals should be making $50k+ for entry-level jobs and should be paid more than that in a lot of cases.
Posted by Bubb
Member since Mar 2010
4091 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:48 am to
People can buy or sell these ridiculously priced things, as long as I don't have to pay for them.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65904 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:48 am to
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There is a reason why rich people were paying 6-figures to get their dumbass kids into USC a few years ago.


This kind of thing implies the opposite of prestige.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3553 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:49 am to
Social work type jobs pay a lot less than they probably should.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
103994 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:56 am to
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obviously the solution is to pay community mental-health therapists $350k a year


The irony is I bet the University of Iowa, Iowa State, or any other legitimate brick and mortar in Iowa probably offered an online Masters in counseling and human development that would’ve gotten her the same exact thing for a third of the price.

When I shopped around for my M.Ed. I found the cheapest accredited program in state. Still had the same clinical training (and some of the same professors) as bigger programs in my state.

People are stupid.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19013 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:58 am to
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quote:

Why is USC selling people a 200k degree that will never pay off?

Because people are willing to pay for it?

By people do you mean US taxpayers? Because the govt is the real culprit here. Student loan debt is directly related to the huge bubble in college tuition costs.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
103994 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:59 am to
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She worked 5 years and never made more than $12,000 a year.


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There is no money in mental health.


What the world was she doing?

I made significantly more than that in private mental health for this year as an associate.

Even community mental health for an LPCA starts out at $55k with benefits here in Kentucky (Seven Counties) and they’ll pay for your supervision.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 11:00 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19013 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:07 am to
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You can get an online MBA from LSU-S for like $10k

The chasm between USC and LSU makes them basically different degrees

This is simply not true. Now, if it's in film at USC one might have an argument, but even then it's a weak one... Yes, a USC degree can get you an interview, but you still have to make your way up in the industry on actual ability.

You responded to an MBA, not a film degree. Most people getting an MBA are doing it to give them more upward mobility in their current company. In that case, getting a $10K LSU MBA is absolutely a fair comparison to a $200K USC MBA. No way the USC degree is worth 20x, probably not even 2x depending on the networking one might rely on post-degree.

And I'd bet the return on investment for an MBA in the social work field is also much better at LSU than USC.

This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 11:09 am
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7683 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:10 am to
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Why is USC selling people a 200k degree that will never pay off?


Nope. Why are people paying $200k for an on-line degree?
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7683 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:11 am to
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These schools also need to be held accountable for this. They shouldn’t be able to charge that much money for a worthless degree.


People need to be held accountable for their decisions.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:17 am to
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People need to be held accountable for their decisions.


This!
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17181 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:19 am to
A few facts to help frame this discussion:

1. Half of the people in the US have an IQ at or below 100. These people do not have the intellectual capacity to understand cost vs benefit analysis.
2. The people with IQ’s above 100 have been bombarded by every teacher since KG telling them “you have to get a college degree”.

Then, you add a government that allows predatory lending like college and 7 year car notes and interest only mortgages.

It’s a recipe for disaster and the only way to fix it is to place the risk on the lender. It would stop immediately.
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