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re: Herd Turns on Hunters After They Gun Down Bull Elephant
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:51 am to Thias2685
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:51 am to Thias2685
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Coming from someone who grew up hunting it takes zero skill to hunt anything. There is literally no sport in it
You've obviously never hunted deer with a pack of dogs.
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:52 am to WildManGoose
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There's absolutely no sportsmanship in hunting elephants like that
Did you watch the video where the wild elephant charged the hunters down? I'd say that the hunt was more than sportsman like. The fricking elephant damn near killed the guy.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:54 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Yeah I’ll just dump a ton of rice bran on the ground and sit in a box with my heater and 20 power scope and hunt like a real man
Thanks for reminding me. I need to make sure my propane bottle is full for this weekend.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:55 am to Darth_Vader
dont understand the appeal of killing something like an elephant. sad
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:56 am to WildManGoose
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That's nothing but conjecture. What percentage of conservation funding comes from paid hunts?
It’s not just the funding. It’s the efforts to stop poaching and improve resources and habitat by the people who live there. When they are incentivized to make sure that the herd has the best chance they can give it to grow, how can that be bad for the animal?
In parts of Africa with legal hunting, there are actually increasing numbers of elephants despite the growth in paid elephant hunting
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:57 am to texag7
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paying to kill older animals in the herd is a form of conservation and the best system in place currently
Not killing them would be better.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:57 am to Darth_Vader
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THIS is the moment cowardly hunters flee in panic when a herd of elephants charged at them after they shot one of the bulls.
I'm neither for, nor against the hunting of elephants. I am for conservation and I know without proper funding to manage these area poachers would move in and kill off the entire population. also, I wouldn't call them cowards for running. You have to purchase tags to hunt these animals at a high cost and a high fine for hunting illegally. I commend them on not using force to stop the charging bull. If they were blood thirsty POS they could have easily stood their ground and unnecessarily killed that charging bull.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:59 am to LuckySo-n-So
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Not killing them would be better.
If they are past breeding age, they are a detriment to the herd. They use up resources and hurt/kill younger bulls and calves that are not theirs
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:01 am to LuckySo-n-So
When you think about it, there really is something sick about that. That animal was hardly threatened so they just walked up and blasted it. I'm not sure I see the sport in it...but it gives these guys boners apparently. It's weird.
I bet they were high fiving each other after, but it was something a 10 year old kid could have done...it required no skill (and shite, the animal was barely moving and they couldn't place the shot to take it out with just one...the animal was still struggling after).
I bet they were high fiving each other after, but it was something a 10 year old kid could have done...it required no skill (and shite, the animal was barely moving and they couldn't place the shot to take it out with just one...the animal was still struggling after).
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:03 am to Darth_Vader
i know they are catching a lot of hate, but i wouldnt mind having two giant elephant tusks in my office
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:04 am to Darth_Vader
quote:This is click bait. You dont even post in the article where the vid is 3-4 years old and completely legal on that private reserve.
Darth_Vader
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:05 am to Darth_Vader
I hope the elephants won
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:09 am to eScott
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this was a legal hunt
Legal, perhaps. But neither moral or ethical.
Slavery was "legal".
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:09 am to Darth_Vader
Swarovski binos, Holland and Holland SxS, and guy dressed as Teddy Roosevelt, who would have guessed.
I’m in the hunters drive conservation camp, but these guys are cliche as it gets.
I’m in the hunters drive conservation camp, but these guys are cliche as it gets.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:11 am to 995webmaster
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But neither moral or ethical.
I won’t argue ethics with you because there are a ton of people who hunt legally but not ethically
But what is immoral about killing an elephant when killing a chicken is just fine?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:14 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Herd Turns on Hunters After They Gun Down Bull Elephant
When you think about it, there really is something sick about that. That animal was hardly threatened so they just walked up and blasted it. I'm not sure I see the sport in it...but it gives these guys boners apparently. It's weird.
I bet they were high fiving each other after, but it was something a 10 year old kid could have done...it required no skill (and shite, the animal was barely moving and they couldn't place the shot to take it out with just one...the animal was still struggling after).
Do you feel better getting all that off your chest because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about here?
As said, figure out a better way but these elephant hunts are $75-100k and are one of the only ways saving a lot of these elephants. The herds literally benefit by having the old bulls removed.
The herd attacked the hunters, so explain to me again how there is no "sport" in it?
The reason they shoot multiple times is in order to kill it faster. One shot would likely kill it, but it would take a while.
Name some of your hobbies and I'm sure we can nit pick how they aren't great for the universe. I don't know why men judge other men doing something they enjoy when it benefits the locals.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:15 am to Aubie Spr96
I have avidly hunted/fished since I was old enough to accompany my dad to the camp. Along with all facets of Louisiana outdoors, I've participated in high fence hunts for corporate functions, and I've traveled to Alaska and Canada chasing halibut, salmon and waterfowl.
That said, I've no desire to kill any type of bear, big cat, wolf, fox, coyote, hippo or elephant. However, I understand the dangers and risks presented to rural populations and farmers' herds. I understand that big/dangerous game hunting in Africa funds a major component of their efforts to promote conservation and fight poaching. Often the meat is made available to local villages which is a major boon to their well-being.
Big/dangerous game hunting isn't for me, but those who say it is "immoral" either don't understand or refuse to admit the underlying facts associated with these hunts. Is it always sporting, like being dropped in the wilderness with nothing but a single shot high caliber rifle, camping for days on end with a native tracker and Ernest Hemingway? Probably not, but there are definite benefits to both animal populations and local communities.
That said, I've no desire to kill any type of bear, big cat, wolf, fox, coyote, hippo or elephant. However, I understand the dangers and risks presented to rural populations and farmers' herds. I understand that big/dangerous game hunting in Africa funds a major component of their efforts to promote conservation and fight poaching. Often the meat is made available to local villages which is a major boon to their well-being.
Big/dangerous game hunting isn't for me, but those who say it is "immoral" either don't understand or refuse to admit the underlying facts associated with these hunts. Is it always sporting, like being dropped in the wilderness with nothing but a single shot high caliber rifle, camping for days on end with a native tracker and Ernest Hemingway? Probably not, but there are definite benefits to both animal populations and local communities.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:17 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I won’t argue ethics with you because there are a ton of people who hunt legally but not ethically
But what is immoral about killing an elephant when killing a chicken is just fine?
Exactly. So we eat beef in America, is having a large farm kill and butcher a cow that is exponentially less capable of protecting itself than an elephant better? The locals will use every bit of the elephant. Why does it matter that some guy wants to pay to shoot it? You paid someone else to kill a cow.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:17 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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But what is immoral about killing an elephant when killing a chicken is just fine?
For starters, the chicken isn't killed for "sport". If we weren't going to eat the entire thing we wouldn't kill it. (As an aside, if the person killing the chicken gets a boner/takes a selfie/high fives his boys with the carcass each time he kills one, I would agree it's also weird).
Also, chickens are a bit more abundant than elephants.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:19 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Also, chickens are a bit more abundant than elephants.
Well shite, so are people. We should kill some of them too
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If we weren't going to eat the entire thing we wouldn't kill it.
The animal gets eaten by people who need it more than the hunter does
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 11:22 am
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