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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:34 am to
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2460 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:34 am to
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To whom did he make the offer — curious if it was local or federal who told him to take a hike. Bet they’re wishing they’d said yes about now.


It was the Feds, and it was purely political.

Politico article

Verge article
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
15815 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:36 am to
You keep on talking about articles when we are talking about the MSM news channels. Are you really this obtuse?
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4796 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:37 am to
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The fact that you admit you have to search and find it proves it’s not getting the attention it should.


Search? I went to abc news and there’s a link to a section devoted to Helene. It’s incredibly easy to find article after article on every MSM’s website (except fox news for some reason. Don’t know why they are ignoring this story)
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1199 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:37 am to
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Here’s ABC News’ page devoted to updates on Helene’s impact: LINK Incredibly easy to find btw

Ok so if we want Helene coverage we can go and find it.

If we want to know what Hezbollah is up to half a world away we can just turn our TVs on.

Cool.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97244 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:40 am to
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How can they do that without power? Even if they include a generator how do they do that when the roads are washed out between where they are and where the tower needs to be?


And how do you power said generator when there’s no fuel.

It’s a logistics nightmare. Fedgov should sent the military in with heavy duty off road equipment and amphibious vehicles capable of getting through the mud and water to bring fuel, food, mobile cellular towers to the areas and bring people trapped back out. Fabricate temporary bridges and such. We are capable of doing it but we would rather waste money and resources on Ukraine
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75915 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:41 am to
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Just to add onto this discussion, there are people all over Facebook wondering if they can still take their trips planned to Asheville and surrounding areas in the next week or two.


That’s probably the last thing that Asheville needs right now. I don’t think people who are unfamiliar with the area understand the scope of this situation.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44865 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:41 am to
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Turn a blind eye all you want to but the truth is the truth


The news can’t get here any more than the guard can. You have to understand it’s easy to fly into flat land. NOT so easy to fly into a Ridge and Valley Mountain chain. Roads are out and where you gonna land? Low lying areas are flooded. Many of us are surrounded by lakes, rivers and National and State Parks. You might land on a hospital roof but you saw what was going on in Unicoi county. What good would landing there do you because now you’re surrounded by rapidly moving water the size of a small lake.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2288 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:42 am to
In New Orleans the morning news on the local Fox 8 affiliate had about a 5-minute segment about the flooding and damage caused in that area and links and phone numbers to donate aid.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97244 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:43 am to
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I read I think 31 earlier today somewhere in here.


I fear it’s going to be in the hundreds, maybe thousands. It’s low now because most areas aren’t reachable to even begin search and rescue
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1199 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:45 am to
There was a guy offering use of his runway and begging to be connected to the proper authorities in state and federal government. From the description it sounds like it’s in or near Mountain Air, NC.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4796 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:47 am to
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You keep on talking about articles when we are talking about the MSM news channels. Are you really this obtuse?


There was a poster in here who literally said that the MSM isn’t covering this story at all. I was just pointing out how wrong that is. There’s a lot of coverage.

If you think there should be even more coverage that’s understandable. But to say it’s being ignored is patently false.

If you’re mad you’re not seeing CNN reporters live on the scene then you’re going to be mad for a while - I don’t think their reporters are trained to parachute into places like Boone. The devastation in the mountains is pretty much inaccessible right now.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10291 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:51 am to
From WLOS in Asheville

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(10:30 AM) - 10 killed, at least 1,000 unaccounted for in Buncombe County.
Sheriff Quentin Miller announces that 10 people have been killed in Buncombe County and around 1,000 are currently unaccounted for. Miller says that the names of the deceased will not be released until county officials are certain that next of kin are contacted first.


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Chief Anthony Penland of Swannanoa said there has been mass devastation throughout the area, and that a portion of Old US Hwy 70 is no longer there. There is a task force team helping to get to more people in the area, and there are currently two private helicopters dropping food at two locations:Harley-Davidson andFirst Baptist Church Swannanoa.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 11:53 am
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:53 am to
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The news can’t get here any more than the guard can. You have to understand it’s easy to fly into flat land. NOT so easy to fly into a Ridge and Valley Mountain chain. Roads are out and where you gonna land? Low lying areas are flooded. Many of us are surrounded by lakes, rivers and National and State Parks. You might land on a hospital roof but you saw what was going on in Unicoi county. What good would landing there do you because now you’re surrounded by rapidly moving water the size of a small lake.



That has frick all to do with reporting & covering a domestic natural disaster currently taking place

Actually makes it look worse on the MSM for giving it little to no on air coverage that there are whole towns that can not be reached because of the devastation

They have zero problems reporting from the craters of bombs in war torn 3rd world shitholes but can't setup a press tent nearby or draw any eyeballs to just how bad the people of Eastern TN Western NC & North GA are suffering

Why anyone is defending the flipping media is mind boggling to me
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44865 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:53 am to
Hope those numbers go down by a lot when communications pick up.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36409 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:54 am to
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Why anyone is defending the flipping media is mind boggling to me


It's not so much defending as trying to figure out why y'all are this bent out of shape, given the logistical situation in Western NC.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97244 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:55 am to
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you are looting, especially in circumstances as dire as this, you are not fit to live...


Depends. Looting TVs? I agree


Looting food and water? Understandable under the circumstances
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102595 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:55 am to
They will... all this water is flowing my way too .. about to really test the TVA infrastructure.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
1859 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:58 am to
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That’s probably the last thing that Asheville needs right now. I don’t think people who are unfamiliar with the area understand the scope of this situation.
I said it the other night when helene was making landfall that this would an ef4+ equivalent, but in flooding. Flooding, especially of a scale like this in mountainous areas are violent, violent events.

This is a flood event that will geographically alter the landscape and water drainages for hundreds and/or thousands of years to come.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44865 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:58 am to
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That has frick all to do with reporting & covering a domestic natural disaster currently taking place Actually makes it look worse on the MSM for giving it little to no on air coverage that there are whole towns that can not be reached because of the devastation They have zero problems reporting from the craters of bombs in war torn 3rd world shitholes but can't setup a press tent nearby or draw any eyeballs to just how bad the people of Eastern TN Western NC & North GA are suffering Why anyone is defending the flipping media is mind boggling to me


It has everything to do with it. No one wants to see the same footage on a loop. Reporters can’t get in to gather first hand intel and interview people. Most of what they have right now is coming from people recording things on their own and finding a way to upload it.

The news has never met an Appalachian they didn’t want to show struggling with tragedy. It’s a meme for god’s sake.
Posted by MountaineerPatriot
Member since Aug 2024
134 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:58 am to
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Just to add onto this discussion, there are people all over Facebook wondering if they can still take their trips planned to Asheville and surrounding areas in the next week or two.


And this is where I blame the national media for the lack of coverage. 80% of the country have no clue of the devastation in WNC.

You might be able to take that fall Asheville / WNC trip. Fall 2025 or 2026 that is. :(
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 12:00 pm
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