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re: Heart Disease leading cause of death in america

Posted on 10/18/18 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 6:41 pm to
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truth makes some of ya'll upset unfortunately


You sound just like a bible thumper
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35521 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 6:41 pm to
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animal product based diets in America


yeah, it's bot level.

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35521 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 6:44 pm to
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I eat mostly animal based foods, but i'm trying to correct my diet.


if you aren't trolling, then please tell me where this idea is coming from. You are being fed something a lot more dangerous than the food you're eating.

ETA: I recommend the 7-hour podcast Dr. Peter Attia did with Dr. Tom Dayspring as a primer on lipidology. It is fascinating. Attia's previous ep with Dave Feldman was good too, but Attia kind of pissed me off with the way he treated Dave, especially in the post-hac intro. But the mass-balance issue isn't that important to me right now. LINK

Another good resource is Malcolm Kendrick's now-57 part blog on CVD. LINK

See also, anything by Ron Krauss (Attia interviewed him also). I don't necessarily agree with everything all these people say (and they have some disagreements on various issues--see mass-balance quibble mentioned above). But Krauss and Dayspring are two of the most knowledgeable people in the world about lipidology, so I tend to listen to them instead of the sort of really bad info you posted.

This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80817 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Simply eating eggs will put you 5 times over the daily recommended cholesterol intake.
Too much cholesterol, high levels of LDL in particular, may cause atherosclerosis, a condition in which plaque
Dietary cholesterol intake is far less important than your genetic predisposition for elevated endogenous cholesterol production and arterial inflammation. You seem stuck in the 1990s.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19847 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Simply eating eggs will put you 5 times over the daily recommended cholesterol intake.


But eating 300g of simple sugars everyday is ok...
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 6:57 pm to
I eat beef on average 3 to 4 times a week. Sometimes more.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 6:58 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:00 pm to
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Disregard the disgusting amount of refined sugars Americans shovel down their throats. One of the biggest problems we face today is sugar.


Soft drinks are liquid candy. If people would cut out soft drinks and floss at least one time a day it would probably reduce 75% of the cavities you see out there. Sugar is a rampant problem in this country.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35521 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:08 pm to
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I eat beef on average 3 to 4 times a week. Sometimes more.


my NMR profile is damned near perfect, as are my inflammation (e.g. CRP, sed rate) liver-function tests, and insulin-resistance (NMR has a decent index) markers, and they all keep getting even better as I've increased my animal-fat intake.

I realize this is n=1 anecdotal evidence, but it beats bad epidemiology and vegan propaganda. and, as long as I feel great, perform well physically, my numbers remain as good as they are, and my body fat % remains in the low-teens or better, I think I'll stick with what I'm doing despite any cherry-picked mouse data.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:16 pm to
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More than half of the deaths due to heart disease in 2009 were in men
So, less than half of the deaths due to heart disease were in the only other gender, i.e., women?? Checks out....
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:18 pm to
Weird

Bc I been eating meat only with one meal of carbs throughout the week and this is the lightest I’ve weighed in 4 years
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:26 pm to
I can't believe we're #5. Are people in other states just eating fried butter?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80817 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:28 pm to
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I can't believe we're #5. Are people in other states just eating fried butter?
Nah, murder cuts into our numbers of those with heart disease.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 7:29 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8851 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:43 pm to
meat causes diabetes more so than sugar.
I’m going to assume you’re trolling because I can’t believe you actually believe that statement. I’ve witnessed first hand what type 2 diabetes can do to a person who had NO self control and I promise you beef, pork and chicken wasn’t a primary staple in his diet.
The biggest problem with nutrition in this country is that people try to over over complicate it.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:48 pm to
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Disregard the disgusting amount of refined sugars Americans shovel down their throats. One of the biggest problems we face today is sugar. I hope those lobbyist enjoy hell


I’ll get downvoted but you are wrong. There isn’t anything inherently wrong with sugar. It just make it easier for you to have an excess amount of caloric intake.

If someone had a net negative caloric intake of a sugar rich diet, they aren’t getting heart disease.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4988 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:53 pm to
Same uncle went to the doctor at 102.

Asked when his last checkup was, he replied "When I joined the service."

He was in the Army between WW1 & WW2.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45420 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:54 pm to
IDK where I stand on this. My cholesterol was high. I switched to a protein, veggie, and fruit diet. Only drink red wine, black coffee and water. Cholestrol dropped. Not sure what the culprit was, but it worked for me.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:56 pm to
This has always been the leading cause of death.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6204 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:16 pm to
Sugar is already glucose
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3237 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Sugar is already glucose


Table sugar is 50/50 glucose and fructose.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7196 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:23 pm to
Only 2.5 million people die every year ? No wonder we are over populated
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