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re: Has Kia really come far in reliability over the years? *Telluride related*

Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:02 pm to
Whoever designed that thing deserves a raise because everyone is talking about it.
Posted by WoWyHi
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:03 pm to


I mean it looks like a high end Expedition or Range Rover.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:04 pm to
Then get her the palisade. It’s the exact same vehicle
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:06 pm to
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Quality is more important than reliability. Reliably poor performing cars are just that, reliably poor.


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Gaston



Checks out...
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:07 pm to
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I mean it looks like a high end Expedition or Range Rover.



You can't slap the name "Telluride" on a cheap piece of shite and get away with it.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:09 pm to
I've heard nothing but wonderful things about Kia vehicles from actual owners over the past 5 years or so. That Telluride and one of their sedans look damn good.

Like others here, I'm not sure I'm over the stigma the brand had early on.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Whoever designed that thing deserves a raise because everyone is talking about it.


Not sure why other brands don't take a cue from Kia, Hyundai (Genesis), and even Mazda.

Make your car look like it's a luxury car - even if it isn't - and things will get better for your sales.

Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:09 pm to
I just bought one on Saturday. It two weeks to get in cause they are selling fast. In my city we only have 3 car dealerships and the next closest are 300 miles away. Lots of people drive Kia’s for that reason and they have always been reliable.
If there were plenty of dealerships I think I might still have bought the telluride. I picked it over some other popular stuff.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:10 pm to
So Kia decided to rip off Range Rover?
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:12 pm to
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So Kia decided to rip off Range Rover?



I'm fine with that as long as it's not a shitty brand anymore.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:12 pm to
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What does this even mean?



As a 40yo male, Kia was introduced to me as the low cost/high volume provider of cars that will last about 3 years and then fall apart.

You will have a hard time convincing me that a brand which once advertised a "Buy one Optima, get a Sephia free" event is capable of producing quality automobiles
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:12 pm to
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So Kia decided to rip off Range Rover?



At least it looks like an SUV instead of another bland crossover that have the exact same designs.

Look at what Chevrolet did to the poor Blazer :(
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:14 pm to
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Checks out...


Right as rain.
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:14 pm to
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You will have a hard time convincing me that a brand which once advertised a "Buy one Optima, get a Sephia free" event is capable of producing quality automobiles

THIS is what keeps screaming at me inside my brain when I consider buying the Telluride and putting my wife and children in it. I'm just uneasy but I really like that vehicle.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:15 pm to
If I bought one, I would put the Korean version of the logo badge on it just to frick with people. You can probably get it done for $50.



Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:16 pm to
It's like Mazda and Acura had a baby logo.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35501 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:17 pm to
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I've heard nothing but wonderful things about Kia vehicles from actual owners over the past 5 years or so. That Telluride and one of their sedans look damn good.
My buddy's wife has a Stinger. I was pretty surprised to see the KIA logo on it the first time I saw it.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:17 pm to
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You will have a hard time convincing me that a brand which once advertised a "Buy one Optima, get a Sephia free" event is capable of producing quality automobiles

THIS is what keeps screaming at me inside my brain when I consider buying the Telluride and putting my wife and children in it. I'm just uneasy but I really like that vehicle.




They got their start by filling a niche. Over the years they've improved and now they are changing their image same as Hyundai.

Not too different than Honda and Toyota.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25690 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:21 pm to
Kia has come a long way with reliability. Here is consumer reports top ten by brand in descending order, Kia is 5th. Note Honda is no longer in the top ten, they have had several years of significant issues with quality.

Lexus
Toyota
Mazda
Subaru
Kia
Infiniti
Audi
BMW
Mini
Hyundai

This is there worst 10 with Volvo at the worst, note there are some brands like Land Rover and Jag with too few data points.

Volvo
Cadillac
Tesla
Ram
GMC
Chrysler
Chevrolet
Jeep
Dodge
Lincoln


The only issue with the Telluride is it is new so there is basically no reliability info on it.

In the end, ALL cars are much better than 10 years ago and tons better than 20 years ago so it isn't like even a Volvo falls apart on the way home from the dealership and for most it isn't a big issue in the first 75-100K. Toyota and Lexus start to make better sense when you go 200-300k. One issue that hasn't been discussed is resale if you don't drive a car until the wheels fall off that should be part of the financial decision, that said few people buy a car with their head instead of their heart.

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