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re: Has anyone worked on choo choo trains before?

Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:51 pm to
I have a friend who works for Canadian National. I can ask what cerififications you need if you bump this thread tomorrow. I think you need a couple rail safety certificates before you get hired entry level.
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1845 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:05 pm to
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I think you need a couple rail safety certificates before you get hired entry level.


You don't need anything to get hired as a Conductor Trainee other than a high school diploma(or GED).

Pay is pretty good, work-life balance is about as bad as it gets, job is easy. The guy saying it was dangerous as a switchman didn't work for a Class 1 in the last 20 years.

You'll have some uncertainty for the first 5 or so years depending on where you're hired/the economy. After that you will make good money and never be off on a weekend or holiday for the next 15-25 years.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

choo choo trains
is there another kind
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72659 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:44 pm to
Are you musical?

I think that’s required for at least one of the jobs there-

Posted by ISEN_AG
ThunderWolf Manor
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:54 pm to
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Posted by ISEN_AG
ThunderWolf Manor
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:00 pm to
Sorry, screwed up.
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Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:21 pm to
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The guy saying it was dangerous as a switchman didn't work for a Class 1 in the last 20 years.


Switchman can be dangerous if the guy doesn't use his head. Had one get killed when he cornered a car that he didn't see was fouling the lead.

Knew a guy that got cut in half when he slipped on some ice and went under a moving car. Knew another that lost his foot kicking a skate off the rail as a crew tied onto the other end of the cut. (He said it didn't bleed. Just snipped it off above the ankle. The weight essentially cauterized it.)

Much safer than it was 50 years ago, but can still be dangerous. Steel wheels on steel rails are not forgiving.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
595 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:35 pm to
I suspect the experience of working for a railroad can differ a fair amount depending on whether it is one of the majors (a "Class I" in railspeak). The majors are Canadian National (technically its Illinois Central subsidiary in these parts), Norfolk Southern (Alabama Great Southern), Union Pacific, BNSF, CSX, and Kansas City Southern (which it looks like is about to be bought up), plus Canadian Pacific (does not operate around here) and "Amtrak" (technically National Railroad Passenger Corp., which is a world unto itself).

For the majors, you start with no seniority, which means (in many job classifications) you get the worst hours and to some extent the less desirable jobs. You need to avoid being a dumba$$ or getting popped for ... unauthorized pharmaceuticals. If you can stay out of trouble, stick it out for maybe a decade, and build some seniority, the pay can be good: lots of those guys, at least the ones willing to take a train out on the road, make $100k or more, with good benefits and a good retirement. The hours get better but are likely to remain at least irregular.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17379 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:32 pm to
No but I have worked with the moo moo cows before
Posted by laslabjohn
bossier city
Member since Mar 2008
168 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:32 pm to
Nola tiger is 100 percent correct. I have been a conductor for 20 plus years. The rail road is not a job, it is a life style and takes a very understanding wife.
You will miss Christmasas, birthdays, and about anything else you can think of. But the pay is good and retirement is too. You just have to stick it out..
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12539 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:37 pm to
How fast can a locomotive run by itself ?
Posted by Hotgin
Kazakhstan
Member since Jan 2014
1503 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:23 am to
What does an average trip look like for a conductor? Do you ride a train one way then fly home? Round trip it? Do you have beds aboard? What about a shitter?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:32 am to
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The rail road is not a job, it is a life style and takes a very understanding wife.
You will miss Christmasas, birthdays, and about anything else you can think of.


All of this.

If you work in a terminal you'll likely sleep in your own bed most days, not nights, starting out. If you are fortunate enough to work out of crew change point out between major terminals you'll work road trains a lot. (There are usually some local jobs at these locations held down by old heads. You'll only catch these off the extra board, where you will live, if they mark off.)

Working the road you generally lay over at the away from home terminal and then come back on another train following your rest. Or well after you are rested. Sitting in the hotel for 20+ hours is not unheard of while you may only be home for 10 before the phone rings. (Used to be 8 hours from tie up to back on duty.)

The hours "off" can vary as different railroads, and even terminals, have different call times. I think UP is a 1.5 hour call, meaning they call you 1.5 hours before you have to be to work. I've worked pools with 2 hour and 3 hour calls, with 2 being the norm on my railroad.

You can work up to 12 hours, however that doesn't mean you are always off the locomotive after 12. It just means you can't turn a wheel. I've sat waiting for a recrew/cab for 16+ hours before.

Locomotives do not have sleepers, but they do have toilets. You usually do not want to shite on the locomotive and never shite on the lead locomotive. Get your stinking arse back to the trailing unit.

Pay varies a lot by railroad. Even the class ones. I was making over 100K 10 years ago as an engineer. 130K+ isn't unusual these days but you will be working a lot to get that. Some have gone to straight hourly pay while others are still mileage based, generally with what are called trip rates.

This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 2:41 am
Posted by UnoDelgado
Covington
Member since Nov 2019
636 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:52 am to
A while back I read the RR industry was lobbying to change a requirement that 2 people be in the locomotive.
Posted by Roscoe14
Member since Jul 2021
345 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:43 am to
I did track work in high school and college. Very heavy work. Work in all sorts of weather, most of it bad (or so it seems). Not a lot of money. I don't advise it.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31982 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:50 am to
All the Class I railroads in the country are downsizing their work forces. For example, I know Union Pacific has idled hundreds, if not thousands of locomotives across their network.




This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 9:51 am
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:52 am to
I hear it's a good way to just pass the time away
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2310 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:53 am to
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What does an average trip look like for a conductor? Do you ride a train one way then fly home?


I have a friend that is a conductor on union pacific. He lives in east Texas around Jasper. He catches the train around his house, and is on it until around Livonia, La and another conductor jumps on. The next day (or two) he catches a train in Livonia and is on it back to around his house. I'm not sure if they all operate like this.
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
10059 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:53 am to
My cousin married a guy that was a locomotive engineer. Drove the short line between Birmingham & Atlanta. He loves it. Makes good money but is away from home quite a bit. No more than 3 or 4 nights at a time.


Side note: The marriage ended when they found out they were both on the same dating app/site. Not sure if it was Match.com type of site or Tinder/POF or whatever other hookup type site/app that they were using.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
7407 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:55 am to
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Never worked for the railroad. I have gathered that when you start you pretty much married to the job and on call 24-7/365. No social life and hard on the body and marriages. Good pay and retirement.


This seems pretty accurate. My brother works for the RR. He has been waiting for YEARS for a 8-5 type schedule that comes open when senior guys retire accordingly.
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