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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***

Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179702 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:13 am to
quote:

. this is more an overtopping


can't an overtopping of a levee of such epic quantities of water coming down river cause pretty vast and evasive damage to the levee itself pretty rapidly?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85707 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Ahh, gotcha. Glad it will work out for them.


Well not 100% sure... Hopefully Muice's buddy comes through with some info. I won't feel comfortable until I hear from them or someone is on that street and confirms the house is good

This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25927 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:14 am to
Yes scouring from the flow is a very real danger
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79482 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:

I've got a strong suspicion it's a levee that was over topped, not a levee failure, but I'm trying to find out more.


Earthen levees that get overtopped quickly fail. Just part of the nature of rushing water eating away.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:



I love the "my place won't flood" radicals


That article is really amazing. Their attitude was basically, "the river has a long way to go, so gtfo with your science."
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147864 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:15 am to
quote:

000
NOUS44 KLIX 291504
PNSLIX
LAZ034>037-039-040-046>050-056>072-MSZ068>071-077-080>082-300315-

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service New Orleans LA
1004 AM CDT Tue Aug 29 2017

...Tropical Storm Harvey Rainfall Reports...

These rainfall totals are from National Weather Service official
ASOS stations for the 24 hour period ending at 7AM CDT this
morning.

New Orleans Lakefront 3.49
New Orleans International 2.45
Baton Rouge 2.10
Slidell 1.19


These rainfall totals are from National Weather Service official
COOP stations for the 24 hour period ending this morning.

Chauvin 6.31
Dulac 3N 5.24
Thibodaux 4SE 3.85
Cocodrie 6N 3.70
Lutcher 3.48
Ponchatoula 2.87
Livingston 2.55
Baker 2.52
Abita River 2.48
Slidell City 2.35
Baton Rouge Concord 2.13
Galliano 2.00
Dutchtown 1.81
Talisheek 1.64
Meraux 1.48
Donaldsonville 4SW 1.41
Liberty, MS 1.39

These rainfall totals are from CoCoRaHS reporting stations for
the 24 hour period ending this morning.

Madisonville 3.2NNW 3.94
Chauvin 8.2SSW 3.70
Gramercy 0.4NW 3.52
Pontchatoula 0.7SW 3.04
Metairie 1.6ESE 2.58
Gonzales 4.5S 2.11
Denham Springs 6.8N 1.68

The sites above have differing ending times, but these amounts are
generally through 8AM CDT this morning.

$$

98/SO
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:16 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:16 am to
quote:

can't an overtopping of a levee of such epic quantities of water coming down river cause pretty vast and evasive damage to the levee itself pretty rapidly?



Yes, although I'm not sure how the levee is constructed in the area.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:18 am to
TS warning until Friday? I thought this would be gone by then.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
11026 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:19 am to
quote:

TS warning until Friday? I thought this would be gone by then.


Official forecast:


Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10139 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:20 am to
quote:

warning until Friday? I thought this would be gone by then


This.... Wth??
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:

TS warning until Friday? I thought this would be gone by then.


Probably just erring on the side of caution with potential tropical storm winds through Friday. As the system moves out it will get elongated.
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4087 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:21 am to
Looking at the traffic camera @ I-45 and Cypresswood in Spring.

They are launching boats there.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41416 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:22 am to
quote:

can't an overtopping of a levee of such epic quantities of water coming down river cause pretty vast and evasive damage to the levee itself pretty rapidly?


IF it's a complete earthen levee, there's a possibility of scouring, which could compromise the entire levee structure.

That's why after Katrina there was so much talk about fortifying the levees here with concrete overlay, etc.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17323 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:22 am to
Kelli wood gardens is closer to the elaffected area than I am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:23 am to
Once it makes landfall will most of the rain be on the east side like with a hurricane?
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:24 am to


just insane
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12130 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:24 am to
quote:

If the levee at Columbia Lakes is breaching now, they are in trouble. The river is going to rise, according to this, another ten feet!!!


Depending on the area that is flooded by the breach, the river's projected rise won't be as high, because the water, at least some of it, is diverted into Columbia Lakes.

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179702 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:26 am to
quote:



Depending on the area that is flooded by the breach, the river's projected rise won't be as high, because the water, at least some of it, is diverted into Columbia Lakes.



which in turn still makes its way back to brazos. brazos river just becomes wider.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41313 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:27 am to
Colombia Lakes is south of Houston. Someone just said Addicks dam has water running over the top now.
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