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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***

Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3848 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Go back through this thread and look at the dates. When did a consensus about what was coming appear? There was plenty of time to hop on I-10 and head east, or head towards Dallas. If you want to blame it on the mayor or whoever then go ahead.


As more of these flooding events happen it is becoming quite necessary to heed warnings and be proactive. After my house flooded last year, I will not need to be told to leave by anyone. However, unless you have been through this shite before, you probably won't take it seriously.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71771 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:21 pm to
Six days ago, it was supposed to dump 40 inches on Austin and SAN Antonio, and 3 inches in Houston. So now we are at 3 of 4 largest cities in the state evacuating. To somewhere.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:21 pm to
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Slackster. Doesn't look good the way that line is filling in in the cost headed to h town . Any thoughts ( Bay, RD, Slackster, or duke )




Tonight may be a long night, but drier air is on the way. It would be irresponsible of me to suggest anything more than that. I'm not an expert in any way.

Current HRRR run suggests the rain will begin pushing east over the next 15 hours.



15 hour forecast from HRRR:

This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23382 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

And still, if we had "known", Friday was still too late to evacuate that many people.


I keep seeing this argument being made. But evacuating could have been completely voluntary. The roads were empty leading up to the storm. I completely get that a large scale evac may not have been possible, so the govt didn't order it, but that surely didn't make it safe to stay. I just know I would have left, but being from south Louisiana my memory is a bit more fresh and maybe less naive about storm fallout. I also have a baby son.

But hey, I don't want to kick anyone when they are down. I have followed this storm as closely as I would have one that directly affected me. My heart hurts for all the people affected, and would love to help out anyway I can.
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14855 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:23 pm to
I'm about 6 miles west of 99 in cinco. Hope the release doesn't affect me
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71771 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

I keep seeing this argument being made. But evacuating could have been completely voluntary. The roads were empty leading up to the storm. I completely get that a large scale evac may not have been possible, so the govt didn't order it,


People are clearly missing the point of this back and forth. Of course just leaving is a option, as always. We are discussing whether the mayor should be blamed for all this because he didn't order a mandatory evacuation. Idiots say he sound be blamed. Regular people say that would have been a disastrous call to make.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:25 pm to
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But evacuating could have been completely voluntary.


Isn't that always the case though? People could have left if they wanted.

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173573 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5709 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

Go back through this thread and look at the dates. When did a consensus about what was coming appear? There was plenty of time to hop on I-10 and head east, or head towards Dallas. If you want to blame it on the mayor or whoever then go ahead.


Hindsight is 20/20. I'm sure there are quite a few people in the effected areas reading this very thread that are blaming themselves for the unfortunate situation they may be funding themselves in. I haven't seen more than a handful of people in this thread blaming the mayor or government. Yes, the individual absolutely had the opportunity to evacuate, logistically the entire area could not. It's a very unfortunate situation for a lot of people that is only going to get worse.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41318 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

However, unless you have been through this shite before, you probably won't take it seriously.


Or at the very least prepare properly. You should be loaded to capacity with fuel, water non perishable food a gen and some first aid kits minimum.
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13550 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:27 pm to
I keep going back to this.


This is what happened the last time the government told Houston to evacuate for Rita.


People spent 6 hours and moved 2 miles and said frick it. People ran out of gas and had to abandon where they were at. Dozens died just waiting in traffic because emergency personnel could not get to them.

You want people just to leave in a free for all. No fricking thank you.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56672 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:27 pm to
People who think Houston could've been evacuated essentially in two directions about two days before the storm hit are blithering idiots.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53937 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

What areas would these reservoirs affect, generally?


From what I can gather, 'behind" for example, S. Fry Road...
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70799 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:28 pm to
Yeah the mayor of corpus or Victoria was explaining why he didn't order a mandatory evacuation. Said it causes problems and they were getting a direct hit.

Things holding up for you?
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5295 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:28 pm to
Can't imagine it's going to effect that far west of 99. Maybe I'm naive though.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173573 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:29 pm to
If that pans out it's going to rain waaaay more than they're predicting in La
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14855 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:30 pm to
Don't think so either... I'm almost in Fulshear
Posted by lsufan4lifeMiles
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
746 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:30 pm to
Can someone share a map of exactly what locations are under water in the Houston area kind of like the flood map we had for 2016???
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

I'm about 6 miles west of 99 in cinco. Hope the release doesn't affect me




The release won't affect someone west of the reservoir. How close you are to the reservoir to the west and north will determine if you flood from the reservoir rising itself.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23382 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

We are discussing whether the mayor should be blamed for all this because he didn't order a mandatory evacuation. Idiots say he sound be blamed. Regular people say that would have been a disastrous call to make.


I will just say the mayors demeanor was far too casual in the release about evacuation. It may have been a disastrous call, but this is a disaster.

I think the best idea in this type of situation is send people out in waves. Plant the seeds to gtfo Monday or Tuesday when we got a better idea. That way your aren't evacuating the entire "4th biggest city" population when the call has to be made.

But no, I don't blame the mayor, it's a tough call to make. So Much damn rain.
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