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Had an interesting call this morning about our products.

Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20387 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:27 pm
I have a valve company in Oil & Gas. We make a variety of gas tight valve products for Deepwater, , Topside, and Land applications. Guy called me about some applications for natural gas. Had a discussion with him.

Long story short.... Natural Gas is primarily a by-product of oil production. With oil wells starting to shut in and many many more to shut in there is going to be an expected increase in the price of Natural Gas. There really aren’t wells that just produce just natural gas... hasn’t made sense economically.

Current thinking is natural gas prices are likely to double or triple as oil production comes offline here in the states. A few companies are already working out economics of just drilling and producing natural gas without oil production.

I know there are some investors on this board....why don’t you give us some feedback or share your thoughts on this speculation?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58131 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:31 pm to
If you want a real discussion, bring this to the money board.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5012 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:31 pm to
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Natural Gas is primarily a by-product of oil production.

Prices on May oil futures went negative. Of course it makes sense that natural gas, a by-product of that negatively trading commodity, would soar in cost.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53805 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:33 pm to
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If you want a real discussion, bring this to the money board.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:35 pm to
It depends on if demand for oil dips more than demand for NG. If demand is there for NG the prices will go up until demand is met.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:35 pm to
Give me enough prime rib and hummus and I'll make Kinder-Morgan look amateur in comparison.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66804 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:36 pm to
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Prices on May oil futures went negative.


WTI prices went negative. Not all oil futures.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64010 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:36 pm to
Thanks for the heads up, I'll go reup all my propane tanks this afternoon.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9646 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

It depends on if demand for oil dips more than demand for NG. If demand is there for NG the prices will go up until demand is met


Thanks Alan Greenspan
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
616 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:38 pm to
Hopefully for all of us, your supplied products are from the US or western Europe.

Quality isn't there from China and India.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:41 pm to
Rush was talking about this last week and trying to get people to stop cheering on falling prices because things like this are going to happen.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:41 pm to
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Natural Gas is primarily a by-product of oil production.


Nope. There are a bunch of just gas wells here in Pointe Coupee that have been producing natural gas from the 1980's. A shite load at that.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15226 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

There really aren’t wells that just produce just natural gas... hasn’t made sense economically.
There are about 10 of them on our land. They used to pay big bucks, but since fracking and new discoveries, they don't pay shite. They're coal-bed wells, so they keep on giving as long as you leave the coal down there.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30085 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:43 pm to
Aren’t most of the natural gas companies also oil companies? Exxon and BP are two of the largest natural gas producers. Seems like it would be a wash, at best
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58131 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:45 pm to
Isn't natural gas more in demand in the cold months of the year? Sure supplies will be more limited, but so is the demand.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Nope. There are a bunch of just gas wells here in Pointe Coupee that have been producing natural gas from the 1980's. A shite load at that. ?

Nope. Most gas production comes oil producing wells, just like the OP stated
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2533 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:49 pm to
I understand your point about gas being from oil but what you are really talking about is the carbon chain associated with the organic matter that made the hydrocarbon product

. There are lots of plays that produce “dry gas”
Which is almost pure gas as you describe...
Google the bossier play in Texas in the Franklin area.... we liked this play years ago when natural gas was going for a premium and our surface facilities were minimal cost because we just hooked the well to the pipeline with minimal surface facilities cost..

Natural gas prices came down a lot from those days and people started looking for oil or high condensate yield gas..... that said there are many dry gas play to go back to if the economics support it....
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:51 pm to
OP was stating that all NG comes from oil wells.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38783 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:56 pm to
I just install natural gas grill f my life
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:58 pm to
Your power is probably provided by natural gas turbines, so you really can't avoid it.
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